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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD JANUARY 6, 2016
freerepublic | January 6, 2016 | greeeyes

Posted on 01/06/2017 4:14:00 PM PST by greeneyes

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To: greeneyes
If you have property (land) taxes where you are, be sure to check the regulations on that before you start. In some places in PA the difference between it being smoothly attached to your home (effectively keep out the weather) vs it being “free standing” (even if 1” from the house wall) is the difference between paying property taxes on additional ‘potential living space’ or not. The businesses around here that build on greenhouses tell you that whether it's taxed or not depends on the assessment rules in your municipality or school district...
21 posted on 01/06/2017 6:18:50 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: LYDIAONTARIO
I would LOVE to try that, setting seedlings out in the winter, but I have the dang deer coming right up under my windows to graze, so anyplace I put something like that, they'll just get eaten off. I have a deck too high for the deer, but it's in the prevailing winds with no protection, so it often has 30 mph or higher winds, which isn't even conducive to plants in the summer.
22 posted on 01/06/2017 6:22:21 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: mplsconservative

Thanks for the info.


23 posted on 01/06/2017 6:25:42 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Kay Ludlow

That’s an interesting point. We have almost zero rules about building anything in this county, so I would be surprised if it matters, but still a good thing to check. Thanks.


24 posted on 01/06/2017 6:28:05 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Melian
Nor-Cal is getting a lot of rain and we're SICK of it. Got down to 29 last night and this morning but clouding up for the BIG RAIN this weekend
25 posted on 01/06/2017 6:36:23 PM PST by tubebender
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To: LYDIAONTARIO
LYDIAONTARIO :" One year I did the “winter gardening”, which consisted of filling my porch with seeds in ventilated containers,
exposed to the elements and freezing temps.. by spring, I had the most robust seedlings! It was a great success!

How was the productivity ?
Heirlooms or hybrids ?
Do you believe the plants were 'hardier' as a result ?
That's an interesting experiment.. Where did you gt the idea ?

26 posted on 01/06/2017 6:59:10 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; LYDIAONTARIO

That is an interesting idea. I would like to know the answers too. Quite a few of my plants were spindly last year and this might be a good idea. Also, I got many started late, and this would be a way to get them going when nature decides.


27 posted on 01/06/2017 7:20:27 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: LYDIAONTARIO

I tried looking up winter gardening but it addresses green houses, lights, cold frames etc.

That is not feasible for us at the moment.

But I’m interested in the starting seeds in before the winter thing.

How does that work more specifically? Do I sow them just like I would in the spring and just leave the pots outside for the winter and let nature take its course in the spring?


28 posted on 01/06/2017 7:34:48 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: greeneyes; All
A couple of views of this mornings frost in the garden…

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29 posted on 01/06/2017 7:36:16 PM PST by tubebender
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CottonBall :" That is an interesting idea. I would like to know the answers too.
Quite a few of my plants were spindly last year and this might be a good idea."

Three sources :
What to Winter-Sow…And When (Updated for 2015) (Using 1 gallon plastic milk jugs)
(Start in January, and prepare to cover with balnkets in frost)
www.agardenforthehouse.com/2012/01/what-to-winter-sow-and-when/

Wintersown Seeds: Now is the time to start
(Proper cleaning and Preparation of Containers)uses 1 quart containers, multiple steps include in a .pdf internet download)
www.instructables.com/id/Wintersewn-Seeds-Now-is-the-time-to-start/

Winter Sowing
This forum is for the discussion of winter sowing, the planting of seeds outdoors in winter. (13,174 Garden Web Discussions | Winter Sowing Latest Activity)
(There is a separate growing from seed forum.)
Related forums:Growing from Seed | Canadian Winter Sowing | Exchanges & Trading | FAQs
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/wtrsow/

(Given my history with HTML, you might have to 'cut and paste' into your browser)
( I am a gardener, not a GEEK ! )

30 posted on 01/06/2017 7:41:45 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: metmom
Ping
Post #30 (Winter sown seeds - 3 internet websites to answer your questions)
31 posted on 01/06/2017 7:44:34 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Looks like I have some reading to do now! No problem, I know how to cut-and-paste :-)

But I’ll do the reading tomorrow, there’s snow on the ground and it just makes me feel colder even though the temperature inside is the same. So I’m heading to bed early. Have a good night tik!


32 posted on 01/06/2017 7:47:16 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: greeneyes

Certainly. I loved that site, not so much since it’s Houzz or whatever. It pretty much killed the local/state gardening forums. The archives are pretty great though.


33 posted on 01/06/2017 8:07:08 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Thank you.

Winter sowing is going to get you different results than winter gardening.


34 posted on 01/06/2017 8:23:35 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: greeneyes; All

Per the radar, we are overrun with snow right now, but nothing is getting to ground level - I did see some tiny flakes & mini-flurries while filling up the bird feeders around 4:30 (for the first time this winter). When I looked out the window this morning, a dove couple was hanging around - I’m sure they were the ‘lovebirds’ I saw every day last winter & were looking to see if there was any food at the feeders yet. Since snow is forecast (6-8”), I figured some black oil sunflower seeds would definitely make the birds happy. To the east, the forecast is for blizzard conditions - my brother may get 12-14” ... glad it’s not me!!

This morning I took a “trip” to FL via Onalee’s seeds at http://www.onaleeseeds.com/ . I ordered several packages of Hyacinth Bean Vine (purple) & my free seed packet will be the white HBVs. I gave seeds away last year to a couple of friends and not a single one came up for them (or for me). The seeds were from my dear aunt who puts EVERYTHING in the freezer .... including all her seeds. HBV is a tropical plant (frost kills it, pronto) so I’m guessing that’s why the seeds didn’t come up. All the friends who got formerly frozen seeds will get a fresh pack from FL & we’ll see what happens.

The website is fun to browse through - lots of flowers/plants to look at. My seeds went in the mail this afternoon & from reading customer comments, Onalee’s is first rate. I liked reading about her garden helper, Bob .... we have a similar garden helper next door - especially good at digging holes where he thinks there are moles. :-)


35 posted on 01/06/2017 8:38:24 PM PST by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: Qiviut

I got my original info from Gardenweb. Containers used all had lids, which kept out the wildlife. Lids had holes poked in to allow rain and air in. I had old tomato seeds, morning glories, squash, peppers, and some other flowers. In spring, when they started sprouting, took the lids off. Being Tennessee, we had some unplanned cold spells in between the warm days. This did not kill my hardy seedlings. Made the mistake of planting too many seeds per container so I lost some when separating. Veggies and flowers grew to be nice looking plants. My porch gets a lot of sun but if I try it again, will choose a wind protected area of the yard for the containers.


36 posted on 01/06/2017 9:23:01 PM PST by LYDIAONTARIO
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To: tubebender

Yes, I hear you’re really going to get a whopper. Most of the storms that hit you have lessoned by the time they travel down to us. You take the brunt of it.

The last two weeks of rain were the first in ages in SoCal. Huge trees were starting to die off and many have toppled over in the wind now that it has finally rained.


37 posted on 01/06/2017 9:44:43 PM PST by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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To: Melian

“lessened” Whoops!


38 posted on 01/06/2017 9:47:23 PM PST by Melian (America, bless God. God, bless America.)
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To: Melian

We are already 10” ahead of “normal” for this season. The Crab fishermen have agreed to a price with the processors and their will be some who will head out tomorrow morning 1/7/17 to set pots under gale conditions


39 posted on 01/06/2017 10:38:27 PM PST by tubebender
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To: tubebender

Thanks for the pics.


40 posted on 01/06/2017 11:31:13 PM PST by greeneyes
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