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What if the Bureau of Land Management were its own country?
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Posted on 12/29/2016 10:00:33 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica

Have you ever heard "what if Texas were its own country" or "what if California", etc.... Here we go.

If Alaska were it's own country, because of its size and land mass it would rank 33rd among all of the world's nations.

If Texas were it's own country, because of its size and land mass it would rank 40th among all of the world's nations.

If California were it's own country, because of its size and land mass it would rank 59th among all of the world's nations.

But what of the BLM - the Bureau of Land Management, an out of control behemoth of a federal agency filled with progressives and bureaucrats that you never elected - which, BTW, owes its existence due to the lineage going back to the work of big government Theodore Roosevelt - where would it stand?

If the BLM were it's own country, because of its size and land mass it would rank 26th among all of the world's nations.

Naturally, the BLM would knock Alaska down to the 34th country, Texas to 41st, and California down to 60th, respectively.

You still don't think progressive governance is a problem?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Outdoors; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; bhoblm; blm; blogpimpage; government; landuse; progressingamerica; progressives; progressivism; roosevelt; theodoreroosevelt; tr

1 posted on 12/29/2016 10:00:33 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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To: mvonfr; Southside_Chicago_Republican; celmak; SvenMagnussen; miss marmelstein; ...

Ping................


2 posted on 12/29/2016 10:00:58 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

So you listened to Steyn today and decided to rip off his material and credit your blog?

Wow. Typical I guess.


3 posted on 12/29/2016 10:04:34 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: ProgressingAmerica

BLM IS its own country. It answers to no higher authority than itself.


4 posted on 12/29/2016 10:06:33 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

What we really need is one big crazy Oklahoma-style Land Run.


5 posted on 12/29/2016 10:17:25 AM PST by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: All

And with a population of about 800, it would be smaller than every member of the U.N. and even Vatican City.

I just made up 800, who knows how to count a permanent population on land that is leased, or parkland? At any given time there are probably tens of thousands of people on BLM land. From what I understand, national monuments are BLM but national parks are not. But if national parks are also BLM, then millions could be on BLM land at any given time in the summer at least.


6 posted on 12/29/2016 10:18:43 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Listen for my radio call-in program on channel A in your brain, yes caller ... I'm listening)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

It is about time someone wrote about this agency. Like the UN, it needs to be abolished.


7 posted on 12/29/2016 10:26:14 AM PST by Demanwideplan
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Silly argument. BLM is we the people. What would you prefer, state control and 50 different rules? Private ownership and denying the people access or benefit from land that is ours? This topic is so far down the priority list its not worth wasting time on even in a blog.


8 posted on 12/29/2016 10:28:40 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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I wanted to issue a small correction/update:

The BLM as it exists today was formed in 1946. However, much of their current holdings, as well as their current culture as a modern progressive bureaucracy owes much to Roosevelt’s run-arounds of congress and his 1000+ executive orders, most of which were related to convervationism. Over the last hundred years of progressive governance, there has been much overlap and passing around of land between the Department of the Interior, the National Park Service, and others.

My comment was primarily aimed at the culture that was created within government by the 26th president, not so much the minutae of which department ended up owning which parcels of land on an executive order by executive order basis, and how it would have shook out later over time.

It should be noted that the National Park Service was not created until 1916, roughly 8 years after TR left office. Prior to the progressive era, government engaged in considerably less land hoarding. Nowadays, environmentalism and land use are synonymous terms to out of control, bossy government.

See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3447792/posts


9 posted on 12/29/2016 10:31:23 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Tell me about it, from a family who has leased BLM land for over 100 years, they are tyrants. They are actually easier on us because they get huge lease payments from companies who put towers on top of our mountain but our neighbors have real hell. Most of this area has been a wilderness study area for 30 years. Just a way to control people.

I know a lot of ranchers who charge trespass fees for people who have to cross their private land. We haven’t done it but there is just one access point of the whole 14k acres that is not on private land and you can just access a small portion from there. We like to stay under the radar.


10 posted on 12/29/2016 10:32:25 AM PST by tiki
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To: bigbob

BLM is not “we the people”.

BLM is “them the government”. That’s why there are so many tales of harassment and intimidation, anecdotally as well as in the news from time to time.

“Society” and “government” are two completely different and distinct entities.


11 posted on 12/29/2016 10:43:56 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: bigbob

Absolutely. I prefer state control over the collective We.


12 posted on 12/29/2016 11:32:47 AM PST by zek157
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To: zek157

I agree. Time to end the BLM and let each state establish the standards of control with the help of that state’s people and governing bodies.


13 posted on 12/29/2016 11:56:21 AM PST by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: zek157

I agree. Time to end the BLM and let each state establish the standards of control with the help of that state’s people and governing bodies.


14 posted on 12/29/2016 11:56:26 AM PST by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: Peter ODonnell
If the Left ever actually gets its way with this country, the political elite will infest those areas. All other (us) will live in multi-tiered arcologies somewhere in the desert regions of Arizona and New Mexico - permission to leave or to travel anywhere outside of your argosy will depend on personal connections and how big a bribe you can afford will determine when you can leave, how long and how far you can travel.

Elites will live on vast estates covering hundreds of square miles without any constraints.


Future home for the masses under construction.

15 posted on 12/29/2016 12:36:52 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

How can 10 square miles be a high 26th rank? /s


16 posted on 12/29/2016 1:58:06 PM PST by TheNext (Hillary LOST the POPULAR VOTE by 7 mil.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

But most BLM lands doesn’t have paved roads.


17 posted on 12/29/2016 2:02:07 PM PST by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
"The BLM as it exists today was formed in 1946"

Incorrect

When the BLM was formed at that time, it was created by merging the General Land Office and the Grazing Service.

The BLM as it exists today was formed when Congress enacted the Federal Lands and Policy Management Act of 1976.

18 posted on 12/30/2016 9:35:22 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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