Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Inside tiny tubes, water turns solid when it should be boiling
mit.edu ^ | 11/28/2016 | David L. Chandler

Posted on 11/29/2016 10:44:51 PM PST by BenLurkin

MIT has found a completely unexpected set of changes: Inside the tiniest of spaces — in carbon nanotubes whose inner dimensions are not much bigger than a few water molecules — water can freeze solid even at high temperatures that would normally set it boiling.

...

“If you confine a fluid to a nanocavity, you can actually distort its phase behavior,” Strano says, referring to how and when the substance changes between solid, liquid, and gas phases. Such effects were expected, but the enormous magnitude of the change, and its direction (raising rather than lowering the freezing point), were a complete surprise: In one of the team’s tests, the water solidified at a temperature of 105 C or more. (The exact temperature is hard to determine, but 105 C was considered the minimum value in this test; the actual temperature could have been as high as 151 C.)

“The effect is much greater than anyone had anticipated,” Strano says.

It turns out that the way water’s behavior changes inside the tiny carbon nanotubes — structures the shape of a soda straw, made entirely of carbon atoms but only a few nanometers in diameter — depends crucially on the exact diameter of the tubes. “These are really the smallest pipes you could think of,” Strano says. In the experiments, the nanotubes were left open at both ends, with reservoirs of water at each opening.

Even the difference between nanotubes 1.05 nanometers and 1.06 nanometers across made a difference of tens of degrees in the apparent freezing point, the researchers found. Such extreme differences were completely unexpected. “All bets are off when you get really small,” Strano says. “It’s really an unexplored space.”

(Excerpt) Read more at news.mit.edu ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: mit; nanotubes; water
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-60 next last

1 posted on 11/29/2016 10:44:51 PM PST by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

That makes sense. It’s one water molecule, and it can’t move anywhere, even if it wanted to, so its state is always frozen.


2 posted on 11/29/2016 10:49:12 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Ice-nine.


3 posted on 11/29/2016 10:49:15 PM PST by TChad (Propagandists should not be treated like journalists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Well, a few water molecules. But they can’t move around, so they freeze.


4 posted on 11/29/2016 10:50:11 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
Well obviously. That's why it's so hard to suck a milk-shake through a small straw, like a coffee stirrer. Christopher Hawking and Dorkins in the wheelchair guy predicted all of this. Duh! Jeez.
5 posted on 11/29/2016 10:54:01 PM PST by golux
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I wonder if there are any practical uses of this phenomenon?


6 posted on 11/29/2016 10:54:53 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Could this be one of the keys to workable superconductors and perhaps even cold fusion?


7 posted on 11/29/2016 10:58:27 PM PST by Bullish (The fly on Hillary's forehead knows)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I should have read further before I asked for “what practical use for this phenomenon”:

“it should be possible to make “ice wires” that would be among the best carriers known for protons, because water conducts protons at least 10 times more readily than typical conductive materials. “This gives us very stable water wires, at room temperature.” Proton conductors are a component in fuel cells.


8 posted on 11/29/2016 11:00:05 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

No doubt something to do with discovering alien life or global warming.


9 posted on 11/29/2016 11:00:09 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: lefty-lie-spy

I posted the answer for my question in post #8.


10 posted on 11/29/2016 11:02:03 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

I didn’t read the article - but that’s what I was thinking - some way to conduct energy. I wonder if it could act as a “stiffening” agent. I have no idea how stiff the carbon nanotubes are - but could see a roll of fabric of it rolled off a truck, fill it with water somehow, and now you have a hard surface (like a runway???) I wonder if because each individual ice particle is so small it wouldn’t break like regular ice?


11 posted on 11/29/2016 11:05:08 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: FreedomStar3028

it’s possible you could make an extremely shock resistant material this way.


12 posted on 11/29/2016 11:05:51 PM PST by DaxtonBrown
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46

First thing I think of is engineered phase-change materials. It takes a LOT of heat to get a liquid to vaporiize from the liquid state. Think of drywall that maintains a nice, even 72 degrees throughout the day.


13 posted on 11/29/2016 11:06:46 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: lefty-lie-spy

Woman and minorities hardest hit.


14 posted on 11/29/2016 11:13:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
“All bets are off when you get really small,...”

Let's get Small!

15 posted on 11/29/2016 11:16:24 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Jerry Reed had this figured out YEARS ago and wrote a song about it...

When You’re Hot, You’re Hot
When You’re Not, You’re Not


16 posted on 11/29/2016 11:16:40 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (No such thing as micromanagement...It's usually microMISmanagement)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
THE SQUIBBENING
17 posted on 11/29/2016 11:20:14 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 21twelve

Carbon nanotubes could be made in a paint-able coating that would revolutionize energy applications.


18 posted on 11/29/2016 11:22:59 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: An.American.Expatriate

19 posted on 11/29/2016 11:26:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: jonrick46
I wonder if there are any practical uses of this phenomenon?

You get enough of these tubs with frozen water in them, and you can cool your drink and it will never melt.

20 posted on 11/29/2016 11:27:16 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-60 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson