Posted on 11/26/2016 8:39:31 AM PST by richardb72
The death of Michael Brown in August 2014 caused millions of dollars in property damage locally, and precipitated the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement nationally. Further, it focused scrutiny on law enforcement by the press, the public, and the political elites. Following that fatal OIS in Ferguson, there has been a widespread perception — perpetuated by the mainstream national media — that white police officers are biased against black subjects in their use of lethal force.
However, a new study authored by John Lott and Carlisle Moody of the Crime Prevention Research Center digs deep into the numbers to demonstrate that this assertion is inaccurate. The study examined data from 2013 to 2015, which represents 19 months prior to Brown’s death, and 16 months after the incident. In short, the study found “no statistically significant difference between shootings of black suspects by black and white officers.”
Because there are myriad data sets explored, a thorough review of the entire text is strongly recommended. . . .
Digging deep into the data Lott and Moody examined a total of 2,699 fatal police shootings for the years 2013 to 2015. “This is 1,333 more killings by police than is provided by the FBI data on justifiable police homicides,” the study stated. . . .
(Excerpt) Read more at policeone.com ...
The MSM is the propaganda arm of the progressive movement. Somehow, they always end up painting the same picture by reporting something that is not true or distorted.
You mean BLM is a lie? Who could have guessed?
A study at Washington State University concluded that cops are more reluctant to shoot minorities out of fear of the political consequences. They don’t get the scrutiny when they shoot a white person.
We knew that.
When the main stream media has a defined agenda,
they never let the facts get in the way of telling a story, their way.
They create the 'fake news', and then just run with it.
Then the article shows up on "JournaLIST" and is pushed by other 'fake news' sites who quote each other
and it becomes a "Circle Jerk" of intellectual dishonesty
Such is the integrity of both the BLM movement
and the main stream 'fake news' media and propaganda machine.
And then the media wonders why subscribership is dropping !
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These statistics do say that white officers don’t kill black suspects more than black officers. But it does not actually speak to whether officers kill black men who don’t need to be killed. I guess, if you want to say that racism is not the cause of unwarranted killings, then this study speaks to that.
But we have seen video of clear unwarranted killings. And in the end, does a black man care if a white cop or a black cop shoots him? He does not want to be shot. And we need to take seriously every single case where a person (black or white) is unjustly killed by a cop, black or white for any reason.
The union correlation is interesting. That could be causal or correlated. It could mean that blacks are killed more in the northern big cities. Or it could mean that police who know the union has their back are more likely to shoot indiscriminately. Or it could mean that unions have fought police reforms like cameras and other reforms that lower black shootings. In any case, that needs to be looked at.
This doesn’t surprise me at all.
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They’re more likely to shoot white suspects.
The study is undoubtedly correct, but it won’t matter. They believe what they believe.
“-——Or it could mean that police who know the union has their back are more likely to shoot indiscriminately. “
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So they become crazed killers because they think they will get away with it?
I think not.
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What I refuse to accept in this era of Sensitivity and Diversity training is that Police Officers --white or black-- are looking to 'gun down' anybody without provocation.
I agree with those Police Officers who've gone on record stating that their jobs have drastically changed and as a result placed them in volatile, unpredictable "domestic dispute" situations that shouldn't be theirs to respond to in the first place.
Seriously, if there's some hopped-up lunatic wielding a knife, he needs medical attention. Get the guy 'stabilized' with a mammal-neutralizing rifle-fired drug-dart and haul him off to the bin! Strap him down for his and the Psych Ward Staff's safety and after three days of detox he'll still be alive and maybe a candidate for treatment.
The meme that "all cops are killers" has already been spread, despite evidence and stats to the contrary, so it seems to me that it's time to take the Police out of the mental health profession and let the medicos deal with the 'crazies' from now on.
I don't want to read another "Cop ambushed/killed during routine traffic stop" article. The media and re-tweets have worked people into a frenzy re: Police shooting "innocent" people, so now there's all this payback going on. It's gotta stop.
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Guns are inherently racist. It’s not just the cops and white people. When guns owned by black Americans in Chicago are fired, they are much more likely to hit other black Americans. Guns seem to be particularly biased against African American children.
If the government were to confiscate all guns owned by Americans, “no reasonable person” would consider this prosecutable because “no reasonable person” would ever expect the government to murder millions of the citizens of its own jurisdiction.
If you just use logic and reason, it is obvious that white people, cops, AND guns are all racist.
“it does not actually speak to whether officers kill black men who don’t need to be killed”
“Needing to be killed” is not the point. Killing is never a legitimate objective of a law enforcement officer. The objective of lethal force is to stop someone, not to kill them. The force being lethal means that death is merely a possibility, not an assured consequence.
Killing a person is a legitimate objective toward the enemy in war and toward someone who has been sentenced to die through just legal proceedings. Even when defending ourselves or loved ones, lethal force must have the objective of stopping a criminal rather than executing a criminal.
When a leo uses lethal force it is to stop a serious crime or stop opposing lethal force.
Does genetics play a factor? Yes. Legitimately. The genetics that cause blacks to be more successful in sports (on average), also makes them a greater adversary (on average) in a confrontation with law enforcement or even a citizen defending his or her self.
But culture plays an even bigger role. Blacks did have to fight to get basic civil rights in this country. They are being stirred up and taught to keep fighting and demanding to get their way. They are constantly being brainwashed into thinking whites and cops are all out to get them. We are their boogey man. And when they respond incorrectly to a law enforcement officer, there is the possibility of getting killed.
Never force a law enforcement officer to use deadly force. Never make him or her feel their life is in danger because of you.
We have four videos of cops unquestionably shooting black men without any legal cause. South Carolina, Chicago, Louisiana, North Miami.
In none of these cases are the police organizations questioning the shooting. They all agree the killings are unjustified in every case. (one case, North Miami, the victim lived.)
In South Carolina and Chicago the video appears to show ruthless murder. In both cases the officer fired all his bullets at an unarmed man looking the other way. In Louisiana it appears the female cop was nervous. Again the black man was facing the other way and had no weapon. In the case in North Miami, the man was lying down with his hands up over his head in plain site. Its not sure why the cop shot him.
While its possible that two of these shootings were accidental. There is no way that the other two aren’t ruthless murders. And the Chicago video is the most disturbing. Because it shows several officers wait for one officer to drive up and totally unprovoked, simply get out of his car and shoot a man while several officers watched and none of them reported the murder. Its the worst case of systemic murder by a police organization on video.
I support our police and I am darned happy to have them. But there are bad apples in every bunch. If the cops don’t fess up to that fact it will only hurt good cops.
“We have four videos of cops unquestionably shooting black men without any legal cause. South Carolina, Chicago, Louisiana, North Miami.”
Nearly every time I hear in the news about a BLM protest over a cop killing someone who is black, I find that the shooting was absolutely warranted. Rarely have I seen ones that were questionable. And I’ve never seen one where the suspect was not doing something that could be perceived as a threat.
I’m not saying it never happens, but it seems extremely rare.
Please provide links to news reports and videos of these incidents.
These four are easy to find on Youtube. Search Chicago cop shoots man 16 times. There are several angles from several cameras in different video. Chicago paid the mans family and fired the chief of police.
Walter Scott was the guy in South Carolina. Very easy to see what happened. A cop in this case reported the crime. While first cop tried to throw down a weapon at the scene. Fortunately the other cop was an honest cop. You can easily find it on youtube. just search for Walter Scott.
Louisiana one is also easy to find. And it also has several views. One view is even from a police helicopter. His name was Terence Crutcher. Search on his name. He did not commit a crime. He was not even suspected of committing a crime. And there were four cops around him. No reason to have a gun on him.
Charles Kinsey is the one from North Miami. I found it easily on Youtube. just searching his name.
I am not a cop hater. But cops need to admit that this happens. And they need to act when it does. They can’t just hide it under the rug. If a cop is shooting people that cop needs to come of the street. And if he does it on purpose he needs to go to jail.
I do admit that Ferguson and other cases are crap. Many of these videos show justified shootings. And the BLM people still riot. They are very wrong to stir up the community when the cop was in the right. And I understand that BLM does not care if they get it right or wrong.
“Search Chicago cop shoots man 16 times.”
Yep. Quite possibly a bad shooting, but again confirms what I said. You have a guy on PCP running toward officers with his hands in his dark-colored hoodie. His actions could very well have caused officers to be afraid for themselves as well as civilians whom this person could have hurt.
Don’t use PCP. Don’t run toward cops. Don’t hide your hands from them. Don’t ignore their lawful orders. Don’t take any other action that might be perceived as a lethal threat.
Next.
“Walter Scott was the guy in South Carolina”
Walter Scott was pulled over for a minor vehicle issue. He had cocaine in his system. He fled from the police officer on foot, and the officer pursued and caught him. Scott resisted arrest and assaulted the police officer. Scott and the officer struggled over the stun gun. The officer claimed he thought Scott took his stun gun.
FYI, struggling with an officer to take control of a stun gun does absolutely justify the use of lethal force.
While it appears from the video that the particular timing of the officer’s use of lethal force was unwarranted, it is also equally apparent to me that Scott would probably still be alive if he had not made many of the choices he did that day.
Don’t use Cocaine. Don’t run from an officer at a traffic stop. Don’t resist arrest. Don’t assault an officer, especially while the officer is performing his duties. Never try to take an officer’s weapon.
Next.
“His name was Terence Crutcher. Search on his name. He did not commit a crime. He was not even suspected of committing a crime. And there were four cops around him. No reason to have a gun on him.”
Crutcher was using drugs - probably PCP. His car troubles probably were entirely his drug-induced paranoia. Crutcher refused to follow lawful orders from the officers. He refused to show his hands. He reached into his pockets. He reached into his vehicle. You better believe there was every reason to draw their weapons on him.
Yet another example of a man who would probably still be alive if he had made any number of alternative choices, starting with not using PCP.
Next.
“Charles Kinsey”
Ok. That’s a real one. No drugs. No resisting. Full cooperation. Upstanding citizen. Trying to save his patient’s life. This appears to be 100% on the police officers. Not sure this has anything to do with Kinsey being black, but it is possible. I ask myself, could the same thing have happened if he were white. I think, yes. What do you think?
One other important point: Kinsey lived.
I’m not justifying the actions of the officers in any of these cases. I am simply pointing out that none are evidence of white police officers looking for opportunities to gun down black people. None are examples of black people getting killed by police officers when those black people were making choices not prone to lead to a person’s early demise.
BLM will accomplish ABSOLUTELY NOTHING positive.
If they want to save back lives, tell them to not do drugs, and to cooperate with law enforcement.
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