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THIS is why you never stop fighting! Never give up, even in the bluest of states! (Vanity)

Posted on 11/12/2016 9:06:12 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

Way too many vanities popping up on FR.


21 posted on 11/12/2016 9:59:35 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Red in Blue PA

The union should not be broken. We already decided that

As for your hopes for mexifornia they are delusional. It is an illegal alien uniparty state


22 posted on 11/12/2016 10:02:15 AM PST by Nifster (Ignore all polls. Get Out The Vote)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Donald Trump may have the potential to be the greatest Conservative President ever.”

I do not think that most people here can understand this, but yes, THAT IS THE CASE. Trump fully owns the House and has a lot of leverage in the Senate. Furthermore, Mr. Obama left the door open to him to rule by Executive Order, when necessary. All Reagan had was a slim majority in the Senate...Republicans had a ‘working majority’ in the House, but the House was still solid Democrat (the working majority existed because many of the Dems from the South were quite conservative...but they were still Dems). The Senate was filled with RINOs. Executive Orders basically didn’t exist then.

Obama opened the door to presidential power...if you don’t like Congress, just do it with your pen and phone - the Dems have only THEMSELVES TO BLAME if Trump does the same.

So far Trump has been GREAT...he’s not the ‘closet-Democrat’ that the NeverTrumpers (here and elsewhere) kept telling us he was...he is governing, so far, as a TRUE CONSERVATIVE and could care less about what the other side thinks, much less wanting to be friends with them.

This is GLORIOUS!


23 posted on 11/12/2016 10:10:15 AM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
CA has many, many white, middle class voters who are essentially apolitical, with libertarian (not really liberal) sensibilities. Many do not bother to vote because they think it makes no difference. They can be reached and turned out if they come to believe government is an existential threat to their incomes and lifestyles. They voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2002, for example, because Gray Davis overreached so much he got their attention. They occasionally pass conservative ballot propositions, even now.

Since the CA GOP is the beating heart of RINO-dom and completely happy to keep the scraps they now have, it is going to be hard to put together a coherent ground game to start undermining Leftist groupthink there. Trump might be able to do it, but I think it will take more time - and ultimately more of a Ron Paul-like figure to appeal to them. Find a libertarian-talking, good-looking, 45-ish, Hollywood actor to run as a Republican and he could easily sweep the state - especially if he is Hispanic.

24 posted on 11/12/2016 10:12:10 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s time to evict all liberals from California, why should they get to live in a paradise while they’re trying to make our lives a living hell?


25 posted on 11/12/2016 10:12:42 AM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Red in Blue PA

We will never know how California would vote until they kick the illegals out.


26 posted on 11/12/2016 10:22:05 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

What percentage of CA Blue votes are deportable? Trump can make it closer. He can also stop the rest of the country from funding, federally, some of the nonsense that attracts the non-deportable ones there. The half-life of fully self-funded liberalism is short.


27 posted on 11/12/2016 10:24:16 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changes)
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To: grey_whiskers

How do you change your screen name?


28 posted on 11/12/2016 10:24:25 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull

You have to contact the Mod or JimRob. All you can change from your account page is your associated email.


29 posted on 11/12/2016 10:27:44 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

With respect, I’m not sure you’re not arguing against yourself.

You say “They can be reached and turned out if they come to believe government is an existential threat to their incomes and lifestyles.”

I really do not see how this can happen when the vote count of a dependent class relentlessly pumped by illegal immigration and illegal voting; while formerly middle-class folks fall into this group as their high-paying mgmt jobs disappear; will never come close to outweighing the mere handful of Zuckerbergs. I live in a very, very liberal and high income (SF Bay) area. And, I fully acknowledge that it is a bubble and that my thinking/observations are totally warped and biased thereby.

That said, these people are absolutely, relentlessly liberal, by tradition, by groupthink, by leftover images from the 60’s and 70s. They despised Reagan to a man/woman and ridiculed him without mercy and without end during his terms. That leftists have gone from thinking Che Guevara was a charming yet harmless paradigm for the struggles of the downtrodden (never mind the stacks of corpses) to thinking he really, really is the answer. They are very not smart in terms of being analytical. They are entirely emotional voters. Key point.

I find it interesting, we have rapidly rising “visitor” crime (including carjackings street robberies and driveway pistol whippings-—absolutely, completely unknown out here, talking NEVER before) from nearby places of shall we say “diversity” and it’s a big fat nothingburger to them. Mustn’t profile, now. That would be hateful. And in classic useful idiot fashion, the absolute last thing they imagine is that their $1.7 MM homes will be ransacked in two seconds if and when the scales turn.

I am quite in agreement with Ann Coulter’s demographic take on this immigration fueled spiral into infinite welfare and endless tax increases for schools, environmental activist setasides, and an orgy of administrative initiatives to stave off social unrest. In CA, this has not yet peaked to some point where “persuasion” will overcome peoples sense of survival. And no amount of white middle class conservatism will overcome the sheer demos of endless immigration. Might it reverse under Trump? Could. In a couple of generations, no sooner.

The existential threat to their lifestyles and incomes, out here, will be met by neverending demands for further entitlements to stave off social unrest and poverty these libs do not want to see for a long, long time before anyone gets the idea that a return to conservatism is the answer. A very long time.


30 posted on 11/12/2016 10:41:28 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Trump needs to halt, and reverse the Third World demographic advance at the expense of Whites. That is what has made CA and NY so radical.


31 posted on 11/12/2016 10:56:45 AM PST by montag813
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To: Mr. Jeeves

In much simpler terms, I just think that libs NEVER stop thinking the more government is NOT the answer, eg; more government is ALWAYS the answer. Government is (except for this time!) produced by the “will/voice of the people”. Well, there you have it. Government is good. More government, then, is better. Individuals, see, are the cause of chaos, disorder, these are the guys who stick a gun up your nose. Gov’t has to control them. Not with recrimination nor imprisonment, of course. Their actions against lawful members of society can be explained in sociological terms. It wasn’t that a vicious violent scumbag shoved a gun in your face. It was that society displaced and oppressed him and he was forced to resort to drugs and to pay for them, he just had to go to where the money was. Eg; you.

When they see poverty, they want government to take care of it.

When failed government policies produce higher and more clandestine immigration and domestically, more desperation and thus more crime, it is not the fault of government. It is that we consume too much of the worlds resources, leaving none for the downtrodden. We have to share. Ergo, we are guilty of depriving the downtrodden. We deserve our fate. And we need a government program to encourage, and if that’s not enough, enforce that.

If and when the underclass and underprivileged arrive at a tipping point where their formerly safe neighborhoods become dangerous, then they will want government to step in and make it safe for them. It will never be the fault of the individuals committing these crimes against person and property; their guilt will cause them to generalize and insist that yet another gov’t program is the answer.

That is why I see no end to this.


32 posted on 11/12/2016 11:06:49 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Apparently one swath of Beverly Hills went red. Everyone the Slimes interviewed walking their wealthy little pooches seems to be shocked. Ha ha ha!


33 posted on 11/12/2016 11:08:50 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

If we had to show valid citizenship ID, CA would be redder.


34 posted on 11/12/2016 11:09:40 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Way too many vanities popping up on FR.


This is a huge pet peeve of mine, calling these “vanities.”

A few decades ago, posts that came from members’ thoughts were pejoratively called “vanities,” and the only official posts had to come straight from the mainstream media.

SURELY WE ARE PAST THAT? Reddit doesn’t have any such requirements. I am happy to read great ideas or queries from other FReepers. I’d prefer reading them to lies from the globalist oligarchy. I don’t consider our sources vanities.

And I’m ok with personal posts, too. If someone needs to know how to do something and they ask the FReepdom for help, that’s fine too.

You don’t like a thread, pass it by.


35 posted on 11/12/2016 11:18:21 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Red in Blue PA

As was utilized in WWII, isolate those that are well entrenched saving resources for the presently winnable battles. Then push for the final victory via either direct battle or erosion by isolation......IMHO. However, we need to always remember that we are fighting a philosophy that is prevalent within both the red and blue teams. Many of the so-called ‘friends’ that have been sent to D.C. have been anything but.....


36 posted on 11/12/2016 11:24:52 AM PST by yadent
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To: Celerity

People from blue states move to red states and them make them blue. Everything they loved about NH is now changed because they brought their beliefs with them. Cidiots


37 posted on 11/12/2016 12:15:18 PM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Yaelle

I’m FR Old School.

And no I don’t feel like just passing them by. I feel like commenting that there are way to many vanities popping up on FR. But thanks for sharing.


38 posted on 11/12/2016 3:59:10 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Red in Blue PA

I think some blue States will move to red. I think Connecticut will be red soon.. Especially if the CT Republicans fight for the TAXPAYERS...


39 posted on 11/12/2016 4:15:42 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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To: Dr. Sivana

Isn’t Suzio part of the family who owns the quarry on the Meriden Middlefield border?


40 posted on 11/12/2016 6:32:37 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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