Posted on 08/12/2016 6:28:30 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
That is about it. In autocross and NASCAR it means something, but buying a used Camry with it is silly.
Thanks for the clarification. I suspected as much.
I just didn’t understand why Joe Blow would need nitrogen in his tires.
They playing you big time. Walk away. Shady AF.
Toyotas are great; buy one elsewhere. While walking away generally gets them to drop the price a bit, if they have enough suckers they can let you walk.
After my last new car purchase, I learned a lot about bumping and the Texas law on auto contracts. So Florida contract law may be different. I will never set foot inside this dealer again due to the practices of upper management (they are to blame, the low lifes below them just play along for the paycheck).
Lesson One: never buy a car from any dealer that has a line item preprinted on the sales form anything like “Dealer Prep” or the like. My dealer charged $499 for a whole litany of things that reputable dealer in DFW do for free. And never pay for nitrogen, but allow it if free.
Lesson Two: I was working with a new sales rep. When I finally came in to pick the car up, after a month of negotiations, they gave the sale to another sales rep that had been there longer. In short, they scammed their own sales reps!
Lesson Three: Do not believe anything that the finance guys tell you. If your finance guy tells you that a charge for something is “customary”, then that is strike one. If he tells you that the extended warranty is 15% of the dealer cost, then strike two. In fact, I will now walk out at that point. Which leads us to ...
Lesson Four: NEVER sign anything they put in front of you until YOU are satisfied. In Texas auto law, there is no “three day signing period” (but there is on real estate transactions). That nagging feeling in the back of your mind? Listen to it and walk out. Make them sweat. Sorry for the poor sales rep but this is your money.
We still make and sell ~15 million new cars in the US every year. If it just doesn't seem right then find another dealer that wants your business.
It never hurts to find a friend at church to go with you to the dealer. Just have them listen in, and tap you on the shoulder if they get the willies. At least one person needs to be there just to watch out for you.
I know of a dealership that used to have the reputation of being fair and easy to deal with, but lost a lot of goodwill because of one manager who was a scruple-free slimeball with a thermonuclear sense of self importance and a great ability to manipulate people. The guy basically bullied the rest of the place into either quitting or becoming his minions, and the actual owners didn't have a clue until an incident occurred which could not be covered up or papered over. It proved to be a costly interlude, because a fair number of potential and former customers were willing to drive the distance to other dealerships or turn to other makes.
Mr. niteowl77
If there is a sticker/tag on a vehicle that claims dealer certified, etc., take a picture of it before beginning to talk to anyone about the vehicle.
I always have trouble with trusting used cars - so many crooked dealers out there that one can never be sure - get a good mechanic to do a bump[er to m=bumper inspection before buying one.
CarMax is a ripoff. Buy from a private seller and just take the car to your mechanic for an inspection first. Only suckers buy a used car from a dealer.
Is there another name for a “dealer agent” for cars? Car brokers are a different entity.
I would like to know that service, for the future. Bing and Google aren’t being cooperative.
Nitrogen gas is very dry, so you’re not puming any water vapor into your tires.
For the ultimate driving experience, buy some titanium rims and fill your tires with argon. /S
Google “car auction agent.” Several come up. You want to tap into mannheims auctions, if possible. They provide an independent inspection for the dealers, many of whom are buying remotely. It has some risk but I think that “risk” is just part of the equation with a used car.
Also lurk around e-bay motors. The very highly rated sellers might be a good resource: they have to be careful, though,as “off ebay” transactions can cause them grief with e-bay.
I specify 80% nitrogen.
heh
I would have thought helium would make your wheels lighter!
I keep my cars for decade or better.
I walk in with the type of car in mind. Tell the salesman, pick a car out of the book (with the options I want) and after the salesman unsuccessfully tries to get me to buy a car off the lot, the salesman always wanders off to the “manager” in the back where they sit and chat about the weather—while making it look like the salesman is “working hard” to get me that deal.
Once the salesman returns I tell the salesman I no longer will deal with him because I only deal with decision-makers, and that means I will only deal with the manager.
I have a checkbook in hand and am willing to pay cash, and they know it, so I end up with the manager and if not, I walk.
Had very few actually let me walk before the manager does the deal face-to-face.
Yeah, salesmen work on commission, and I get that, but it is their choice to make it a run-around exercise, to insult my intelligence.
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