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Now The Obama Administration Is After Gunsmiths?
Forbes ^ | 8 Aug, 2016 | Frank Miniter

Posted on 08/08/2016 5:03:39 PM PDT by MtnClimber

My gunsmith has a lathe, a drill press, even a barrel reamer. He uses them to repair guns. To him, they are like a car mechanic’s welding equipment, drill and cutter tools. He never thought drilling out a broken-off screw or grinding down a gun part to make a rifle’s action work smoother would define him as a “manufacturer.” But now, according to the federal government, he is a manufacturer and is required to pay a $2,250 annual fee as mandated by the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) regulations. This is what the Obama administration is now saying in a rule change.

Manta lists 15,615 gunsmiths in American today. Many of these are small shops—many of them are even side businesses for people who began tinkering with guns and then went to a gunsmith school. Requiring these people to pay $2,250 every year will drive many of them out of business or underground. Perhaps that is the reason for the rule change from the Obama administration. If there is another reason, they aren’t making it public.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; obama
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To: laplata

How many legs does a dog have if you call its tail a leg?
Four. Calling a leg a tail doesn’t make it a leg.

More shameless overreaching and economy-killing from Zero. C’mon January .... good riddance to this America-hating POS.


21 posted on 08/08/2016 5:28:55 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

“Calling a tail a leg’ .... this really p***es me off.


22 posted on 08/08/2016 5:30:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: MtnClimber

The best bet is just to ignore it. Keep your advertising and documents pointing towards repair and specifically note that you will not “create/manufacture” weapons from scratch.


23 posted on 08/08/2016 5:30:49 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Mofia is a private crime family; whereas, the DOJ is the gov't's political crime family.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Given the ruling, you may want to set up a series of youtube videos or classes for folks to do repairs...gunsmith may go the way of blacksmith :(


24 posted on 08/08/2016 5:32:51 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism👍)
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To: MtnClimber

As far as I’m concerned, Obama and the whole DNC can smoke a rancid turd, while jogging off a cliff to fall head first into sea of shit.

And that would be too good for them.


25 posted on 08/08/2016 5:33:41 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: bushwon

Good thinking.


26 posted on 08/08/2016 5:35:26 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: tumblindice

How many legs does a dog have if you call its tail a leg?
Four. Calling a leg a tail doesn’t make it a leg.

More shameless overreaching and economy-killing from Zero. C’mon January .... good riddance to this America-hating POS.


BINGO!

The POS never ceases in pi—ing me off.


27 posted on 08/08/2016 5:35:39 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: bushwon

Set up a shop (i.e. provide equipment and training).


28 posted on 08/08/2016 5:37:31 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: thesligoduffyflynns
oh and btw, I’m a lifelong member of the NRA

I wouldn't place any money on the NRA pushing back on this — they seem to be altogether too happy to have the threat of confiscation so that they can keep their Oh-no! Politician X is going to take your guns, send money! fundraising campaigns. It honestly reminds me of the Republican party's all-talk/no-action policies, abortion and ObamaCare come immediately to mind: they claim to wish both gone yet do nothing substantive against them… especially frustrating is that they could force one to go down by citing the constitutional right to privacy of medical records of Roe v. Wade as grounds for kicking the ACA (ObamaCare) out, raising the issue as a suit to the Supreme Court and forcing them to choose to throw one out or prove that they have no intention of seeing the law consistent.

29 posted on 08/08/2016 5:38:33 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: MtnClimber
Requiring these people to pay $2,250 every year will drive many of them out of business or underground.

That's the point. Charge just enough that they know some people will fork it over but not so much that they get pissed off enough to hire attorneys and take them to court or make a big ruckus to piss The People off.. Our government really thinks we are that stupid.

30 posted on 08/08/2016 5:38:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: laplata
They should not comply.

Agreed.

31 posted on 08/08/2016 5:38:47 PM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: MtnClimber
Now The Obama Administration Is After Gunsmiths?

F*** that stupid affirmative action bastard. We have CNC machines now. We are all F***ing gunsmiths. Technology has moved beyond their ability to stop the manufacture of guns.

WE WILL NOT OBEY.

32 posted on 08/08/2016 5:45:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Reno89519

What kind of repairs and upgrades are prohibited now? Did he say?


33 posted on 08/08/2016 5:45:52 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: MtnClimber
According to the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls, as a gunsmith you have to register with the State Department and pay an annual fee of $2,250 if you perform any of the following services:

a) Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms;

b) Modifications to a firearm that change round capacity;

c) The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks, cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);

d) The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition;

e) The machining or cutting of firearms, e.g., threading of muzzles or muzzle brake installation requiring machining, that results in an enhanced capability;

f) Rechambering firearms through machining, cutting, or drilling;

g) Chambering, cutting, or threading barrel blanks; and

h) Blueprinting firearms by machining the barrel.

In other words, if you perform any gunsmithing operation that requires more skill than your typical bubba at his kitchen table.
34 posted on 08/08/2016 5:47:13 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: DesertRhino

See my post above.


35 posted on 08/08/2016 5:47:48 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: RoosterRedux

If you set up a shop with training, I bet lots of folks would want to learn basic repairs, etc., I would sign up ;)


36 posted on 08/08/2016 5:56:42 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism👍)
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To: laplata

You got that right.


37 posted on 08/08/2016 5:57:22 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Yo-Yo
The systemized production of ammunition

I wonder if they would apply this to a progressive reloading press? Would they give a "progressive" a break? I doubt it.

38 posted on 08/08/2016 5:58:43 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Under the radar.

I have a cnc shop and a customer wanted me to makw actions. Just in fees it was 5500. I had to recuse the work because the customer couldnt afford to pay me upfront for it.


39 posted on 08/08/2016 6:07:57 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: MtnClimber

being a gunsmith doesn’t mean you have to own all the equipment.

Seems they should be able to set up the corporation that owns it all, then lease it when needed. ( wink wink, nudge nudge)
Only the corp has to pay the fee and since all the gunsmiths lease from the corp, would the corp have to pay more than 1 fee a year ?


40 posted on 08/08/2016 6:14:55 PM PDT by stylin19a
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