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Eat away: Italian study shows pasta doesn't make you fat
TheLocal.it ^ | 05 Jul 2016 11:40 GMT+02:00

Posted on 07/06/2016 2:50:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

Interesting. Just last week my doctor told me to lose weight I must stop eating pasta altogether, along with bread, potatoes and rice. The ‘carbs don’t make you fat” era of nutritional advice has come to an end.


41 posted on 07/06/2016 7:22:04 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: dp0622

Give me that pasta e fagioli. Or as some New Yorkers call it, pasta fazoo.


42 posted on 07/06/2016 7:26:19 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: cashless
Correct me if I am wrong. Carbs are converted to glucose (sugar) for energy for the body. Unconsumed glucose is converted to fat, a form of “stored energy”. Your metabolic rate determines at what rate fat cells release fat back into the blood stream where it is converted again into an usable form of energy, i.e. sugar. When you sit on your fat ass and claim an eating disorder, thyroid condition, or whatever ( not including those who actually have those medically verifiable conditions) and do not practice self control, moderation, and physical activity, YOU WILL GET FATTER. You don't need a study to tell you that. Common sense and just a modicum of intelligence and behavior modification should suffice.

The problem is that many of these diets are low-fat. You need lots of fat to tell your body that it's "full", and doesn't need any more now, thank you very much.

I'm drinking coffee with heavy cream just now. Won't be even vaguely hungry for a couple of hours.

43 posted on 07/06/2016 7:29:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (To the GOPee: "Giving the Democrats the Supreme Court means you ARE the Democrats.")
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To: CaptainK
Barilla protein pasta is delicious and fills you up fast. I find I only eat a half portion of the protein pasta when I'll normally clean the plate with the regular pasta.

Point 1: You're right. My mom, born in Italy, still makes homemade pasta. Flour, water, and EGGS. Very filling and satisfying....you just can't eat huge bowls of it like you do with storebought. But of course storebought pasta has very little protein in it because protein is more expensive to incorporate into a manufacturing process than simply adding carbs.

Point 2: As others have pointed out, Italian portions are much smaller than American ones.

Point 3: Pasta/pizza sauce in this country is made with *sugar*. Blech. Now sauces are very regional and family-specific so I can't say this applies to all Italian sauces, but my mom would NEVER EVER put sugar into a tomato sauce.

Point 4: Sugar intake in general is lower among Italians. We drank water at dinner, not soda. Our "dolci", sweets, are less sugary than the average American dessert.

People are trying to reduce this to pasta = good/no good instead of looking at the entire cultural context.

Yeah, for the average American, eating large portions of zero-protein carb-loaded pasta with sugary sauce, and washing it down with soda and ultrasweet cookies, yeah, you are definitely going to have trouble with that carb intake that the average Italian might well not have.

But I believe the premise. I was unhealthily thin the whole time I was single, eating an Italian diet that included lots of pasta. I could hide behind a freaking pencil. Now that I've gotten away from that diet into a more "American one" with crappy bread, sugary drinks, carb-loaded snacks.....totally different story.

44 posted on 07/06/2016 7:42:14 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Olog-hai

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45 posted on 07/06/2016 7:47:47 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Darteaus94025

lol


46 posted on 07/06/2016 7:49:10 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: IamConservative
As a life long combatant in the battle of the bulge, I’ve come to a simple conclusion. It is processed foods that lead to obesity. (Pasta being such a food.) If you look at the eating plans that work for people, low carb, paleo, vegetarian, nutritarian, ketogenic, etc., none include processed foods. On all these plans, you primarily eat real food; fruits, vegetables, meat, eggs.

Yes. But remember, pasta does not have to be processed, and wasn't for centuries. Once you find the right flour, add water and eggs, cut it how you like, let it air dry and wham. It cooks super fast (you can also freeze it), and it's filling and delicious compared to storebought.

Aside, I now have a simple rule. When you cook, your ingredients should not have ingredients, i.e. not processed. If you stick to that, you can pretty much eat what you want.

I'm coming to this conclusion as well. Including grains. :)

47 posted on 07/06/2016 7:55:13 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Olog-hai

bump


48 posted on 07/06/2016 8:39:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: elcid1970

Alright I just bought one of these gadgets. I’m doing low carb and miss having rice and pasta as a foundation to pile other stuff on top of.

https://www.amazon.com/Veggetti-Spiral-Vegetable-Slicer-Veggie/dp/B00IIVRB3W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467845473&sr=8-1&keywords=veggetti

Is there a particular kind of squash that’s recommended and can you really get close to the texture and flavor of real pasta?


49 posted on 07/06/2016 4:30:50 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Fresh zucchini about 1/2” diameter, use the large noodle end spiralizer. One medium zucchini equals about a serving. Microwave four serving size about five minutes. Problem sometimes with excess liquid but not like spaghetti squash.

Just discovered a world of recipes for “zoodles”. Tastes good enough that I’m done with pasta. Bolognese sauce goes good, or stir up chow mein & serve over zoodles. Used to like rice a lot, too.

Bon appetit!


50 posted on 07/06/2016 6:40:00 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

Okay, so zucchini’s the key. When you say 1/2” diameter, do you mean you cut the zucchini into lengthwise sticks about 1/2” dia. to feed into the device?


51 posted on 07/06/2016 7:05:31 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Nooooo! Trim the stem end off the zucchini, then twist it into the Veghetti, turning as you go. Noodles will emerge through the cutter slots. Stick a fork into the end & rotate it to get as much noodles as possible. You’ll be left with a cone-shaped piece when you’re done.

Now....if you cut zucchini into quarter slices, dust with Parmesan & then bake, that makes for a great white substitute. We make that more often than veghetti. Enjoy!


52 posted on 07/06/2016 7:51:32 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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Where are you finding 1/2” diameter zucchinis? I’m no zucchini expert but a typical medium zucchini is more like 1 to 2 inches in diameter isn’t it...like sort of cucumber sized? Or do you specifically seek out unusually slender ones because they make for better zoodles?


53 posted on 07/06/2016 8:28:22 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

You’re right, about cucumber size fits the Veghetti. Quartered lengthwise, zucchini bakes up well.


54 posted on 07/07/2016 12:17:56 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: elcid1970

Okay, got it. Thanks for all the infos. I’m really looking forward to trying this thing out.


55 posted on 07/07/2016 12:30:54 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

You’re awake at 3:00 a.m. just like me. There’s a h*** of a line of thunderstorms rolling through. Lights have winked off twice. Can’t sleep. Might as well FReep for a while.

;^)


56 posted on 07/07/2016 1:06:11 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: dp0622
Either of you guys Italian or eaten in Italy? They eat NOTHING near the portions we do here, and there are lighter pastas that are not made for America because we like to get stuffed full.

The comparison to pizza in Napoli is also quite telling. Very thin crust, a pizza that fits inside the average dinner plate, with one or two crushed Roma tomatoes, oil and garlic on top, and three or four bottle-cap sized chunks of real unsalted mozzarella and a basil leaf. And the taste is to die for, especially if cooked in a wood-fired brick oven. There will be little charred burny spots on the bottom. You can buy a 5" square from street vendors to eat for breakfast or lunch. Saporito!

57 posted on 07/08/2016 8:40:52 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: IamConservative
As a life long combatant in the battle of the bulge, I’ve come to a simple conclusion. It is processed foods that lead to obesity. (Pasta being such a food.)

Italians (in Italy) use unbromated flour. Just ground wheat, no chemicals.

58 posted on 07/08/2016 8:44:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: JudyinCanada
Many of the women didn’t drink much wine, and they were heavy, but that could also be too much cortisol because of the stress....but that’s another subject.

LOL -- agita! It's stressful having to remember how many and what type of catastrophes and illnesses every member of the extended family (natural and adopted) are coping (badly) with! Not even to mention who froze her pizzelli a month before Christmas -- you could taste the difference! It was a sin! It almost ruined the whole festa!

59 posted on 07/08/2016 8:50:06 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will no longer surrender this country to the false song of globalism. --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde
The comparison to pizza in Napoli is also quite telling. Very thin crust, a pizza that fits inside the average dinner plate, with one or two crushed Roma tomatoes, oil and garlic on top, and three or four bottle-cap sized chunks of real unsalted mozzarella and a basil leaf. And the taste is to die for, especially if cooked in a wood-fired brick oven. There will be little charred burny spots on the bottom. You can buy a 5" square from street vendors to eat for breakfast or lunch. Saporito!
Somebody ought to tell these guys:

They're the stars of the Cooking Channel show Pizza Masters. They cross the country in their classic Cadillac, checking out pizza joints along the way.

I love the show, if only because listening to their heavy NYC accents makes me nostalgic. :-)

60 posted on 07/08/2016 8:50:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Donald Trump, warts and all, is not a public enemy. The Golems in the GOP are stasis and apathy)
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