Posted on 04/18/2016 4:45:36 AM PDT by Nextrush
(at:01) Gavin Seim: "Listen our Patriots and our friends and our neighbors they're being tortured in these prisons and jails. Ammon Bundy was left without food for two days after his transfer to Nevada. He was chained to a bench and he was left without food for two days to where his stomach was cramping and he was ill.
He told the story, he's been letting people know what happened. He wants people to know that we need to seek God. All he had was appealing to Heaven and so he just begged for God to intervene.
And eventually he started banging his his shackles or whatever it was in here. He started banging them together to get the guard's attention and one of the other prisoners heard and eventually a guard came and he said 'Well the kitchen's closed'.
And after a while the guard came back and he said: 'Well come with me' and he actually took Ammon to his brother Mel's cell.....now Mel shared some of his food with Ammon and they cried and they got to see each other again and you gotta understand that they're not letting these people see their brothers.....
(at 2:49) ....What's it gonna take to make you realize we don't have America and we don't have liberty and that our judges and our government are the terrorists and that these politicians we keep voting for and that say they are for us and say 'Constitution' are not and they do not have courage and they will not stand. They are not with us.....
We refuse to repent and we refuse to seek God and we refuse to love our neighbor as ourselves and so the Patriots.....innocents all over this nation are locked in iron cages, their due process is abused...
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He also says: "We don't get to sit on the sidelines while politicians fix it for us. God help us. We can stand up."
Something much more important than the story of "Trump versus Cruz" which seems to be almost a media diversion from the mistreatment of prisoners charged with being involved in the standoff at the Bundy Ranch two years ago.
Something which will no doubt be dismissed as two year old news by someone here on FR and pigeonholed into some corner where it will be forgotten instead of being allowed to stand as important news-Breaking or Front Page.
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If Moslem, he would have been given
a prayer mat, a lawyer, and the keys
to the city.
I don't know of any jail anywhere where you can schedule "visiting time" with other inmates.
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And if it would help some Republican beat a Democrat in an election it would be given more prominence here on FR, rather than having its ‘Front Page News’ status and its News/Activism posting removed two minutes after posting.
What’s being said is that these prisoners are kept in solitary confinement and not allowed to see the other prisoners in the general population including their brothers.
Now I think I understand why you consistently came after my posts related to the Patriots trying to free the land from federal control in the West.
You’re perfectly happy I guess with the Hammonds from Oregon being jailed as terrorists and jailed twice after serving their original sentence for lighting a backfire to protect their property from a backfire.
And you’re perfectly happy with those who protested the second jailing without using violence (unlike the first shooters from the FBI and then the shooters from the Oregon State Police who killed LaVoy Finicum) being thrown in jail and put in solitary confinement.
Jail those Patriots, go after them “Bundy Boys” as Harry Reid call them the other week on the Senate floor.
‘Lock em in jail and throw away the key’ you mutter? This Nevada jail must be listening to such a notion.
You know what they say about assumptions.
Okay, I guess you would be happy if the issue could be exploited and a Republican could make a speech about it to win an election, then keep on increasing the national debt ceiling and maybe raise taxes at the same time.
I think that’s what the RINO’s intend to do on 2017 under the guise of ‘tax reform’ overtly or more likely covertly through shell gaming taxes with ‘switcheroos’ of tax methods and rates.
Well as long as we don’t water board terrorists all is well. /s
Not normally, no, I don’t either. But I hear prisoners have to make a visitor list of potential visitors or similar. Suppose each one was asked that question and each named the other as a “potential visitor”. Wouldn’t one expect the prison to do the same kind of accommodation to that as it would to a normal prisoner with a visitor (i.e., they take the prisoner to a visiting area. In this case it would be the other’s cell. Just a thought.
Well these people are ‘terrorists’ or the equivalent in MSM eyes with the ‘armed militants’ moniker put on them which the BBC for instance uses to describe folks like ISIS.
Heck, I heard a story mentioning 9/11 yesterday on KYW Newsradio in Philadelphia referring to it as a ‘militant Muslim attack’........
He is white dammit!!!!
There should 100,000 men standing outside the jail.... Crickets . . .
Well this is the same group that thinks vets are too dangerous to own guns but send them to die in wars protecting this country.
“they’re not letting these people see their brothers.....”
I agree with you. Typically, if you are in prison, you are a prisoner. There are not a lot of liberties when you are a prisoner.
That being said, it is interesting that the article claims, “they’re not letting these people see their brothers.....” And a sentence or two later, he discusses being led by a guard to see his brother....
Some inconsistencies here.
Solitary confinement keeps them separated from other prisoners in the general population and their fellow prisoners arrested for Patriot protests (aka “brothers) which number over a dozen between Oregon and Nevada prison locations.
You should always let accused co-conspirators visit with each other with a recorder going to see if they’ll say anything that can be used against them.
I’m not saying I don’t agree with you. I guess my question would be under what auspices is the ‘visitation’ allowed - special potential prosecutorial or a modified “normal visitor” situation.
To the extent that you can, you probably want to keep groups and gangs separated in lockup. You don’t want to give any more emotional or physical support than you have to. You don’t want to give them an opportunity to encourage each other on get their stories straight.
I’m not sure I buy the ‘two days without food’ story. No jailer is going to want to give the prisoner or his lawyer any more leverage than he has to.
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