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Report: U.S. aircraft carriers ‘unchallenged primacy may be coming to a close’
Washington Post ^ | February 22, 2016 | Thomas Gibbons-Neff

Posted on 02/22/2016 8:38:44 AM PST by C19fan

The United States’ aircraft carriers have always been an almost untouchable deterrent, steel behemoths capable of projecting the full weight of the U.S. military wherever they deploy. Yet while many militaries could never hope to match the U.S. carrier fleet in size and strength, countries such as China, Iran and Russia have spent recent years adjusting their forces and fielding equipment designed to counter one of the United States’ greatest military strengths.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: carriers; navy
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1 posted on 02/22/2016 8:38:44 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

As a FYI, the recent proposed Defense Dept budget zeroed out research for long range strike drones.


2 posted on 02/22/2016 8:39:21 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

There are areas aircraft carriers can operate, and areas they should not go. This has been the case since 1941. Aircraft carriers are intended to project power against inferior land opponents or to secure the vast ocean areas.

The idea that one U.S. Navy carrier group, or even several of of them, can operate long in close proximity of a major land power like China or Russia is military suicide.


3 posted on 02/22/2016 8:41:36 AM PST by henkster (Hillary Clinton's supporters are beginning to re That'll keep alalize they are fettered to a corpse.)
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To: C19fan

Firing a swarm of a 1,000 or even 5,000 supersonic anti-ship missiles all at once is still cheaper than one aircraft carrier.


4 posted on 02/22/2016 8:41:55 AM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: C19fan

Time for the USAF to step up, and dominate from space.


5 posted on 02/22/2016 8:42:18 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: C19fan

While Obama and his Marxist Muslims fiddle the world burns


6 posted on 02/22/2016 8:42:49 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: C19fan

From the Report:

“Operating the carrier in the face of increasingly lethal and precise munitions will thus require the United States to expose a multi-billion dollar asset to high levels of risk in the event of a conflict,” the report says. “An adversary with A2/AD capabilities would likely launch a saturation attack against the carrier from a variety of platforms and directions. Such an attack would be difficult - if not impossible - to defend against.”

The United States “must re-examine the relevance of the carrier and its air wing and explore innovative options for future operations and force structure,” the report concludes. “If the United States is to maintain its military superiority well into the future, it cannot afford to do otherwise.”


7 posted on 02/22/2016 8:43:38 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: C19fan

Seems wide to plan for the next era of battlefield supremacy. We’ve been using Carriers for nearly a century. At some point the current concept becomes a horse and buggy scenario.


8 posted on 02/22/2016 8:47:33 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
"Seems wise"...sign.

Spell check, I do not...


9 posted on 02/22/2016 8:49:13 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Don Corleone

fairy in chief cares more about his social changes to the military, homosexuals , cross dressers, women in combat units and all the other crap which most in the military do not want.


10 posted on 02/22/2016 8:49:44 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: BenLurkin
Time for the USAF to step up, and dominate from space.

The weaponized laser system that is rumored to be in use by our Military is likely the result of "Star Wars" (circa Ronald Reagan). I used to hope that we have a super top secret defense plan in operation in orbit around the earth. Note there has been a lot of resourced put into taking out enemy satellites (from all sides). I expect by now, we may have fallen behind in the weaponized orbit department.

I can only imagine that in full scale world war, GPS systems around the world would be attacked, among other satellites. Question is, do we have the type of defense systems in space that can neutralize and/or support our surface weapons (like aircraft carriers battle groups)?

11 posted on 02/22/2016 8:49:46 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: henkster

Describe close proximity. Vs. standoff quick response nuclear strike capability from a time safe defensive distance. This article is a defense consortium’s sales pitch.

It is a carrier GROUP, comprised of many many facets and assets, any ONE of which has more firepower than the applicable supposed superpowers. IF a carrier is so vulnerable, then WHY are the chinee building so many (an inferior ones at that)?


12 posted on 02/22/2016 8:51:13 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Tenacious 1

Look up Rods from God.


13 posted on 02/22/2016 8:51:45 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: C19fan

When will a fighting ship of the line be named the U.S.S. Barack Hussein Obama?


14 posted on 02/22/2016 8:52:59 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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15 posted on 02/22/2016 8:54:01 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: HomerBohn

I’m guessing about Jan 22, 2017.


16 posted on 02/22/2016 8:54:45 AM PST by nascarnation (RIP Scalia. Godspeed)
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To: Trumpinator

“Firing a swarm of a 1,000 or even 5,000 supersonic anti-ship missiles all at once is still cheaper than one aircraft carrier.”

The advent of Hypersonic missiles makes it even worse.


17 posted on 02/22/2016 9:07:33 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: HomerBohn

As soon as waste management scrapes one of its garbage scows.


18 posted on 02/22/2016 9:08:11 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Caipirabob

Its geting to the point anything big, is going to be a big hittable target.


19 posted on 02/22/2016 9:10:07 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tcrlaf

Well, there is one sonario that no one is going to like: build up a 5000 strategic missile defense armed with 10+ MIRVs. That should do the trick.


20 posted on 02/22/2016 9:10:34 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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