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RKBA Democrat

Posted on 02/18/2016 1:17:56 PM PST by RKBA Democrat

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To: RKBA Democrat

The Pope questioned anybody’s Christianity who wants to stop illegal immigration into the United States. This Pope and most Bishops do not not believe in Sovereign States. They are against borders and would love to have a one world government with them as valued insiders. This has been my observation as a practicing Catholic of fifty years plus.


21 posted on 02/18/2016 1:58:26 PM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Yeah, ideas are best fired in the crucible. So it doesn’t much bother me. Watch....the idea of annexation of territory is about to get discussed again. As it should be. Manifest destiny 2.0.

Does anyone really think we would be worse off if we had simply kept Cuba as spoils of the Spanish American war? How many Cubans wouldn’t have died in the gulag? How many billions of dollars would have been saved if we had avoided a marxist regime 90 miles from our territory?

As for Mexico....we conquered them in the 19th century. Do we really think we would be worse off if we hadn’t just kept it and turned it into a first world country? Oh and that Catholic influence....would Roe v Wade be the law of our land if we had a more Catholic population as a result of annexation of more of Mexico?


22 posted on 02/18/2016 1:59:23 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You and me both. I miss Benedict, too.


23 posted on 02/18/2016 2:12:56 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: MeganC

The leader of your church is most likely an American, as are most of his congregants. The Pope obviously is not. Nor are most Catholics American. These days most Catholics are latin and African. So of necessity Catholics have to discern what is religiously relevant and what is not.


24 posted on 02/18/2016 2:26:51 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

Thanks.


25 posted on 02/18/2016 2:28:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

St. John Chrysostom had some choice words about Bishops.


26 posted on 02/18/2016 2:33:58 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Nope. A student of history. Or are you arguing that the annexation of New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado etc. was a bad idea?

The context of your post was to annex Mexico. Just imagine the impact of adding 122 million Democrat votes.

27 posted on 02/18/2016 2:58:23 PM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I have no problem with a bridge into America as long as it is guarded and we only allow invited guests across it. Plus I think a wall is not doable, we should just use land mines like we do on the Korean dmz. Might owe a few Hail Mary,s after this comment. ;)


28 posted on 02/18/2016 3:07:05 PM PST by TDLOS
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To: RKBA Democrat
It's time we went back to the time tested method for dealing with failed states: annexation.

I agree with much of your post. This, I do not agree with.

Simply, we cannot afford to annex Mexico. It's too big, and too broken, and we're too screwed up. Reuniting Germany almost didn't work. East Germany was an economic disaster area. Reuniting the Koreas wouldn't work. North Korea is an even worse disaster area. In those cases, at least, the people on both sides are all Germans, all Koreans. There's shared language, and historically shared culture. Mexico's language and culture are vastly different from that of these United States, and there is no historical unity.

Mexico needs to fix itself, but it also needs to remain Mexico.

You're quite right that merely sending "aid" won't help. The corruptocrats just suck it all up. What's needed is both "regime change" and to erase the systemic culture of corruption.

29 posted on 02/18/2016 3:14:53 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: TDLOS

Probably a few Our Fathers as well.

The minefield probably be cheaper, but misses the bigger problem: the failed state on our border. The head choppers in Mexico are trying to rival daesh in their butchery. Sooner or later it will need to be dealt with us. I merely suggest that if we’re stuck with the problem we should deal with it in the politically incorrect fashion that worked so well in the 19th century.


30 posted on 02/18/2016 3:15:02 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: NorthMountain

I agree that all of Mexico at once is untenable. Its like the old saw: how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

I would propose going state by Mexican state and doing it via plebescite. The Mexican states of Sonora and Baja California would be a good start. Let the people in those states decide if they want to become US territories.

The mere discussion of annexation of Mexican territory would light a fire under the arses of the Mexican oligarchy.


31 posted on 02/18/2016 3:27:23 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: RKBA Democrat
I hope you realize that annexation will not happen without war. Suppose the people of Sonora actually get together and vote to join up with the "Norte Americanos" ... Would the corrupt oligarchs just let them go? The question answers itself: of course not. Are you willing to fight another war for Mexico?
32 posted on 02/18/2016 3:33:07 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: RKBA Democrat
…no Catholic could subscribe even to moderate Socialism… -- Pope John XXIII, Mater et Magistra

…Whether considered as a doctrine, or an historical fact, or a movement, Socialism, if it remains truly Socialism, even after it has yielded to truth and justice on the points which we have mentioned, cannot be reconciled with the teachings of the Catholic Church because its concept of society itself is utterly foreign to Christian truth.… -- Pope Pius XI, Quadragesimo Anno

Seems that somebody should be pulling a plank from his own eye...

33 posted on 02/18/2016 4:08:28 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: RKBA Democrat

What do you think the pope’s attitude would be if those illegal aliens were Buddhists? I doubt he would be so open-armed.


34 posted on 02/18/2016 5:01:00 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
As a Catholic-, I would observe that Hindus are quite inoffensive in today's world compared to the Islamofascists (Muslims take note that references only SOME of your co-religionists). Francis is welcoming the horde of Muslim refugees from North Africa and the Middle East to continue to overrun formerly Christian formerly Catholic Europe.

Predecessors such as Pope St. Pius V, backed the Christian navy of Don Juan of Austria in its total rout of a fearsome Turkish Muslim fleet in the Mediterranean at the decisive naval battle of Lepanto (10/7/1571).

Likewise the Lithuanian and verrrry Catholic King of Poland, Jan Sobieski led his cavalry, the feared Hussars, to lift the nearly successful Siege of Vienna (9/11 to 9/12/1683) at the last minute, driving the Muslims from their Austrian foothold in Europe. Note the date. The Muslims just never get over military losses to us Christian "infidels."

Clearly, politics, economics. defense of national sovereignty and the necessity for military victory over the enemies of Western Civilization are well outside Bergoglio's competence, if any. At a time when Islamofascist fanatics are beheading Catholics and other Christians, crucifying children, burning captives alive for their cameras for the "crime" of rejecting Islam, all Francis seems to have is "Welcome to Europe! Rape, loot, pillage, kill! Above all, enjoy! Can we turn over the wealth of those evil capitalists to you? Who am I to judge???"

In any event, not to worry that actual Catholics will take Bergoglio seriously. We view this papacy as effectively an interregnum. The good news is that Bergoglio is very old and rather ill. Also good news: Cardinal Martini who paved the way for this disgrace is dead and German Walter Kardinal Kaspar, the friendly heretic, is 81 and cannot even enter the next conclave.

Blase Cupich, now regrettably Archbishop of Chicago, is an enemy of the Traditional Mass despite repeated papal directions from Pope St. John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI to make it available to all who want it. He is also hostile to the pro-life movement and has threatened priests and faithful when he was Bishop of Spokane. Cupich will be 67 on March 19, 2016 and will be required to submit his resignation on or before March 19, 2024, if God does not fire him first. He is not yet a cardinal although Chicago is certainly a cardinalitial See. Perhaps, we shall have a new and Catholic pope who could deny him the red hat and order him to Rome to head up a new Curial Congregation (full time hands-on job and no subordinates)) on changing the toilet paper in Vatican port-a-johns and cleaning them by hand. That would better suit Cupich's talents than reversing the very fine efforts of Francis Cardinal George. Hurry on, Sundown!

God knows how to fire Francis. The sooner the better. May he be replaced promptly by an actually Catholic pope and may the next conclave not humiliate itself and Holy Mother the Church as did the last.

35 posted on 02/18/2016 8:09:34 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Original Lurker; Mrs. Don-o; Tax-chick; RitaOK
Hey, the USA is still a somewhat free country and you are entitled to express your inane opinions of my Faith and that of many others here. I try not to return with a retort directed at your religion, if any. Generally, I succeed.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

If you happen to believe in Scripture, see Genesis 3:15. Generally from many translations: "I shall put enmity between thee and the woman and between her seed and your seed and (s)he shall crush you under her (his) heel and you will strike her (his) heel."

The female pronouns are used in the quite Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible and the male pronouns are used in the various Protestant Bibles. Whichever you may prefer, does the passage reference J. Random woman or Mary specifically? If the former, just who is "her seed" who will crush Satan under his heel? Come on, you can do this! If that is idolatry, make the most of it.

36 posted on 02/18/2016 8:37:41 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I am a Cradle Catholic, who loves Jesus’ mother, Medjugorje supporter, daily Rosary, daily Bible Verses, Stations of the Cross during Lent, and various other devotions. I am Pro-Life and Pro-Family.

People who support division and promote hatred between Christians, over our differences, are the ones who should be trying to “build bridges”. I am offended whenever a so-called Christian starts bashing Catholics over their popery or love of Mary. Mary is a mother, the mother of Jesus, trying to insult His mother is not a way to get into heaven. Perhaps it would be wise to start treating her with the respect that she deserves as the Mother of our Savior who stood at the Cross with her Son until he died, instead of hurling stupid comments at her. And then you blame the media for calling out the phony Christians who behave in an unchristian way.

I support Donald Trump for President over the 2 Catholics that are running. I support Pope Francis when it comes to doctrine but I do not support every off the cuff remark that he makes about the climate, capitalism, or some socialist scheme that the United Nations is pushing for the Pope to promote this week.

My comments are for all on this board who act like Catholics are your enemy. We can stick together or fall together it is up to you.


37 posted on 02/18/2016 9:13:07 PM PST by wakibeach (GOD, Family and Country are the only reasons that life matters.)
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To: scooby321

Nobody should think that the Pope’s remarks on walls, bridges, Trumps, etc. are Magisterial teachings. They are not. Nobnody claims that they are. They are his own opinions -— and unfortunately, they are ceaselessly repeated and amplified.


38 posted on 02/19/2016 7:21:11 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to act justly, love tenderly, and walk humbly with your God.)
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