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Why Would Cruz Insult New Yorkers?
RealClearPolitics ^ | 24 Jan, 2016 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 01/24/2016 8:37:26 AM PST by MtnClimber

When it comes to votes, the state of New York is a gold mine. In the 2012 presidential election, more than 11 million New Yorkers were registered. By itself, New York accounted for half of Barack Obama's margin of victory in the popular vote over Mitt Romney.

You might think Republicans who want to win the White House this year would be trying to improve that performance by appealing to residents of the Empire State. But Ted Cruz is doing the opposite: He sneered that Donald Trump would be bad for America because he "embodies New York values." If Cruz gets the nomination, the state's residents, from Easthampton to Buffalo, won't forget the insult.

But you know what? Cruz doesn't care. He has no reason to care. That's because of a curious artifact known as the Electoral College. The fact that a major candidate is happy to write off so many Americans is just one more piece of evidence that this system is a bad way to elect a president -- and that both parties ought to make it a priority to abolish it.

Under the Electoral College, we don't have a national election for president. We have 50 state elections, and nearly every one of them is winner-take-all. New York hasn't voted for a Republican for president since 1984 -- and even if Queens native Donald Trump heads the ticket, it won't do so this year.

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KEYWORDS: cruz; liberals; realclearpolitics; stevechapman
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1 posted on 01/24/2016 8:37:26 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

They voted for communists for mayor and governor.


2 posted on 01/24/2016 8:38:05 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Ted Cruz isn’t campaigning for liberal voters.


3 posted on 01/24/2016 8:38:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: MtnClimber

A gold mine or fool’s gold? From a state whose governor told the world ‘conservatives need to leave the state’?


4 posted on 01/24/2016 8:40:12 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: MtnClimber

The fact in my opinion is that there was or never is a chance for Ted to get the New York vote, period. I like Ted, but this just isn’t in the cards.

There is a chance that Donald, however, could draw some New York votes away.

In the end, it won’t do anything good for Ted in New York in my book. It was a complete error on his part in my opinion regardless of the sympathy I have for him. An error of bad advice IMO.


5 posted on 01/24/2016 8:40:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MtnClimber

One word answer: Dorkio.


6 posted on 01/24/2016 8:41:25 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: MtnClimber

Do you really think a town that allows peeing and masturbating in the streets is going to vote for Cruz?


7 posted on 01/24/2016 8:41:39 AM PST by biff
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To: MtnClimber

I think it is simple.

Cruz is imitating what others have said and how they act... Reagan and other famous lines. He converted “San Francisco values” into “NY values.” This expression dates back to Frank Riggs, but has been used by Jeane Kirkpatrick, Newt Gingrich and Bill O’Reilly.

I don’t think it was a good idea for Ted. It seems voters are looking for something authentic this season and not a replica.


8 posted on 01/24/2016 8:42:37 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: MtnClimber

Because they will vote Democrat anyway, and the rest of America thinks their values are for S&$@ ?


9 posted on 01/24/2016 8:42:43 AM PST by babble-on
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To: MtnClimber
Cruz had no reason to endear himself to New Yorkers. His plan was to stir up middle America.

It was a bold gamble. It didn't play out as he expected.

What it did do, I think, is give Trump a shot... granted, a small shot... at winning the state. If nothing else, the D's may have to invest resources to defend the state. It probably bolstered Trump's shot at other states in the region.

Long time until November; we'll have to see.

10 posted on 01/24/2016 8:43:06 AM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: MtnClimber

Republicans have singled out San Francisco, California as a whole, Chicago and the Northeastern cities and states all my life. It’s an easy comparison between the two parties and the values and principles. If comparing DeBlasio’s New York with Texas or Iowa is offensive, we’ve gotten to the point where even Republicans are offended by everything.


11 posted on 01/24/2016 8:43:37 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: MtnClimber

Because he would have zero chance of winning there, but possibly could gain votes elsewhere I the country by disliking an unpopular place.


12 posted on 01/24/2016 8:43:54 AM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: MtnClimber

Trump said no Evangelicals come out of Cuba.
That’s why.
He said no Conservatives come out of NY.

Trump doesn’t even know what an Evangelical is and yet
he said he is one in an Iowa speech.

But we don’t care what Trump says. We just want a reality TV star for pres so we can be entertained.


13 posted on 01/24/2016 8:44:03 AM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: cripplecreek

The phrase “New York values” plays really well in Peoria (and almost everywhere else in flyover country), as there is a deep and abiding suspicion that Noo Yorik Siddy is not, really and at the heart of things, truly “American”.


14 posted on 01/24/2016 8:44:29 AM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Ted Cruz isn’t campaigning for liberal voters”

Why not? You don’t seriously think there are enough Dobson followers to elect a President, do you?

Seriously. You need 64 electoral votes that Romney lost (and you need to win every Romney state). Where are those votes going to come from?


15 posted on 01/24/2016 8:45:14 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at all.)
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To: MtnClimber

Why does Cruz do anything he does? He really doesn’t make sense to me (a whole mess of contradictory behaviors- claims vs. facts). Maybe he’s socially inept. Which I can sympathize with, but it seems kinda dangerous-risky in a president, vp, Sec’y of Defense, or SOS.


16 posted on 01/24/2016 8:47:06 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: MtnClimber

For the same reason that Hillary is not going to waste any time campaigning in Texas.

She just drops in occasionally to rake in some bucks from rich trial lawyers and then leaves as fast as she can.


17 posted on 01/24/2016 8:47:39 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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I think he meant “Wall Street Values”. At least that is what he should have said.


18 posted on 01/24/2016 8:50:19 AM PST by TruthBeforeAll
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To: MtnClimber

Thanks for posting this. Mr. Chapman makes the mistake that many others do/did. You see, Cruz didn’t insult/offend/comment about New York values. He pointed out the language of Trump years ago. Many want to slay the messenger and not address the message. It is a fact that Trump was correct - New Yorkers in the City favor gay marriage, gays in military, and partial birth abortion. There is no greater line of arguing than to use the words/positions of the opponent. By the way, has anyone even asked Trump about his comment? Does he still believe in them?

Gwjack


19 posted on 01/24/2016 8:53:10 AM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: Gaffer

no. it was REALLY bad and insulting and divisive to me, being from NYC.

if our values are so bad, why is much of the board supporting one of us?

a lot of good people in New York.

Even good liberal people. their warped thinking on abortion and taxes and bent towards socialism (even though they all work at investment banks) drives me insane.

but when i got my head injury, a lot visited and a lot chipped in to help me financially.

the pro abortion thing separates us for good. on THAT issue, their values are murderous.


20 posted on 01/24/2016 8:55:13 AM PST by dp0622
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