Posted on 11/12/2015 9:36:28 AM PST by don-o
On the date of the event, police attempted to enter the restaurant, but were blocked by management. State and local authorities then occupied positions outside the restaurant, including on the rooftop of a neighboring restaurant, Don Carlos.
I've read that claim (it appears in the Rodriguez civil suit against Twin Peaks), and find it hard to believe.
On or about May 17, 2015, the date of the event, local police attempted to enter the Waco restaurant to ensure the safety of patrons, but management asked them to leave.
A Texas DPS report written by Christopher Frost claims that the police had planned to be in the restaurant, undercover, but decided not to.
Once information was confirmed that only the patio was rented and the main portion of the restaurant would be open to the public, a decision was made to have Special Agents working in undercover capacity to be inside the restaurant. These Special Agents would be inside the restaurant to conduct surveillance and gather intelligence from inside the restaurant. A CID Operational Plan was completed and will be maintained at the Waco DPS CID Office. ...On 05-17-15 at about 10:30 AM, Special Agent Frost drove by Twin Peaks parking lot and observed what appeared to be employee's only at the restaurant. Special Agent Frost proceeded to the DPS CID briefing location which was the Flying J Truck Stop parking lot located at 2409 South New Road in Waco. ...
During the briefing, surveillance observed a large group of Cossack members at Twin Peaks in and around the patio area. A decision was made during the briefing by Lieutenant Schwartz not to send undercover Special Agents into the restaurant. ...
That report describes attempts to influence Twin Peaks and interaction with both the franchisor and the franchisee, but does not claim what Rodriguez does, that "local police attempted to enter the Waco restaurant to ensure the safety of patrons, but management asked them to leave."
No ballistics reports yet. All that “small/medium” characterization comes from autopsy reports.
Jesus Delgado Rodriguez was a sixty-five (65) year old husband, father, grandfather, great-grandfather, and motorcycle enthusiast. Mr. Rodriguez was also a former U.S. Marine, and a decorated Vietnam veteran. He was not a member of any motorcycle gang.
His family also admitted that he sometimes rode with Bandidos, and given his support, the police and prosecutor would lump him in with the other accused, if he'd lived.
He said reports about Rodriguez being a member of the Bandidos motorcycle gang are false. Rodriguez knew some Bandidos, sometimes rode with some and bought patches in support of some of their benefits, Castillo said.Family of slain biker speaks - Herald-Zeitung Online - May 20, 2015
The Twin Peaks WPD talking head, Sgt. Swanton, who can’t open his mouth without his nose growing, got commendation for his role during the Koresh fiasco.
Scroll down to about midway to read how much landowners were paid and malls owned by Simon Properties have contracted with them.
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Smoking Frog, ping to Cboldt’s post #24.
Seems to me that Rodriguez, a decorated Marine, didn’t belong to either club. He was an independent. Not that it matters anymore for him or his family. :^( His right to free association was taken from him by deadly force.
Were ANY of them shot by the cops? Were ALL of them shot by the cops? Were SOME of them shot by the cops? Inquiring minds want to know!
So, the Bandidos win, 8-1. When's the rematch scheduled?
Why not, it’s fun. You get to play Army. People it North Carolina have been doing this for years. They shouldn’t get to have all the fun. This opportunity comes with a special commemorative tin foil hat embossed: I was a participant in Jade Helm 16.
About recent 106 grand jury indictments>
“Prosecutors say they’ll seek plea agreements on all the cases but that some of them could be forced to trial.”
"Cookie cutter," and the DA has an uphill battle proving what he alleges. Very thin on facts, loaded with "or" conjunctions. Each person charged is charged with intentionally, knowingly and recklessly causing the death of one or the other of the dead by shooting and/or stabbing and/or cutting and/or striking, and intentionally, knowingly and recklessly causing bodily injury to one or another of the injured by shooting and/or stabbing and/or cutting and/or striking.
For each charge, defendant either used or exhibited a deadly weapon, or knew that a deadly weapon would be used or exhibited.
It's the sloppiest indictment I have ever read, but that style may be typical in Texas. I assume the courts all allow it.
WOW! So the DA cannot connect ANY single accused to any single victim???
Is THAT what this mishmash is saying?
There is still an open question about when the ATF arrived on scene. The biker grapevine claims they were there prior to the shootout. Statements by the LEO mouthpieces would lead one to believe they showed up after the event was over. In any case they are heavily involved now and anything they claim is automatically suspect.
“That Jade Helm conspiracy theory turned out to be a whole heap of nothing,..”
The fact that you no nothing about JH doesn’t mean it was nothing. A successful operation would of had no notice or publicity.
I think they know what you said is true, but they are trying to intimidate the defendants into a “plea bargain” to make this go away.
If this goes to trial, which I doubt it actually will, it will take many years to actually try the 106 already indicted.
I’m ashamed this is happening in Texas. I doubt this is typical of Texas legal procedure.
And “trial by jury” is based on a jury of local peers. Not a charge by the local DA.
There is an outside agenda behind this. I believe it is about expanding and using this approach to go after groups of people who might oppose the Left’s grand schemes from here. It has Loretta Lynch’s M.O. fingerprints all over it.
The indictments charge each of the accused with killing or injuring one or more of those killed or injured, and conflate "knowing" with "conspiring" (agreeing to commit a crime) although even "knowing" (in advance) has to be inferred from presence at the scene.
I think the indictments are deficient as a matter of law.
Art. 21.03. WHAT SHOULD BE STATED. Everything should be stated in an indictment which is necessary to be proved.To prove conspiracy, there must be proof of agreement. Knowledge is not agreement, and the indictments do not state that the person charged agreed to commit a crime, only that they either did it, or knew it was to occur.
The indictment also alleges recklessness, but I see, on careful reading, only for injury. The accusation of causing death is alleged to have been done intentionally and knowingly. Reckless conduct is not part of the allegation of causing death.
Art. 21.15. MUST ALLEGE ACTS OF RECKLESSNESS OR CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE. Whenever recklessness or criminal negligence enters into or is a part or element of any offense, or it is charged that the accused acted recklessly or with criminal negligence in the commission of an offense, the complaint, information, or indictment in order to be sufficient in any such case must allege, with reasonable certainty, the act or acts relied upon to constitute recklessness or criminal negligence, and in no event shall it be sufficient to allege merely that the accused, in committing the offense, acted recklessly or with criminal negligence.
Whether or not the DA can connect a single accused to a single victim can't be gleaned from the indictments.
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