Posted on 11/04/2015 5:07:21 AM PST by CGASMIA68
Been to a few forums and thought I would ask around here.
I have a Stihl BR600 blower and a "Husky" saw.
Been using the premeasured small bottles of Stihl Ultra Synthetic in both. Its not cheap but I am.
6 Pack 18 bucks.
Needed 2 stroke oil yesterday so I went to NAPA and picked up a bottle of Valvoline 2 stroke.
Stopped in the Stihl shop and the mech said don't use it in the BR600 it requires 100% synthetic only use the Stihl Ultra. The Husky maybe but he wouldn't.
I try to take care of my equip and don't want to damage any thing to save a buck.
So my ? is what do Freepers use and what kind of results do ya have?
Is there a Hi Grade synthetic to replace the Stihl Ultra and save a few $$
Thanks & Happy Fall clean up!
Are you talking about bar oil, or the oil additive to gasoline for 2 cycle engines?
For me the best performance from ANY 2 cycle engine comes from most any oil gas additive and NEVER use gasoline with ethanol. Storing over winter, I use the recommended amount of Sea Foam to prevent buildup and varnishing.
I stick with the factory oil in my Stihl and Echo saws.Oil is cheap,compared to a seized engine.
I think I would listen to the mechanic. My guess is the tolerances in that Stihl are such that only a synthetic is slick enough to maintain.
Before using it in the Husky though, I would check with a Husky dealer. It just might be TOO slick for it.
Don’t laugh. Harley Davidson issued bulletins telling dealers and independent shops not to use synthetics in their pre twin cam models.
Same could hold true for the Husky. Even if it is 2 stroke and HD is 4 stroke.
My last tank of the season is Ethanol Free.
Saws,blowers,splitter.I also run everything 2 times a month in winter just for drill.Nothing is stored below 50 degrees except the spliiter.
Just wondering about alternative Synthetics for the gas?
good point on the saw,thanks
I have a Stihl chainsaw and a big backpack leaf blower from another manufacturer. I have always used straight premium gasoline and the little bottles of Stihl 2 stroke oil, not synthetic.
I measure the gas with a one gallon gas can.
The saw is about 15 years old. No problems.
Stihl 2X or 3X (Can’t remember which) the warranty IF you are using ONLY the Ultra oil.
I’d look at the cost first. I’ve become very proficient in rebuilding 2 cycle carburetors because of ethanol damage. A rebuild kit for a generic one is pretty cheap.
As for tolerances being so tight, etc. I might believe that if the cylinder and walls were steel or cast iron sleeve....Aluminum to me tells me tolerances just aren’t that close.
Not that it’s cheap but Klotz is the only 2 stroke oil i use.
Do you think Stihl owns a refinery and oil processing plant?
Stihl makes great products, they are all I use. I own 3 chainsaws, 2 weed eaters, a pole saw, and 2 leaf blowers.
Any good synthetic 2 stroke/cycle oil is fine to use. I personally use Lucas synthetic two cycle myself because one of the vendors I buy from carries it.
The best advice has already been given to you above. Use the highest octane gasoline you can buy that does not contain ethanol. No ethanol!! 91 octane or higher. I have one place I buy 94 octane from. If you can do not store in a plastic jug and if you do have to use a plastic jug do not store in anyplace that gets direct sunlight.
I love the 4 stroke weed eater, since that is the one I had so many problems with as a 2-stroke.
/johnny
I run my 2 cycle at 100:1 with Amsoil Saber (http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/2-stroke/saber-professional-synthetic-2-stroke-oil/). I’ve never had a problem and it runs just fine. I also use ethanol gas and always use Hot Shot (also from Amsoil).
I’ve been running 87 octane 10% ethanol gas with Hot Shot for several years now in all of my small engines without any issues - snowblower starts first pull every time, the weed whip has always taken 3 or so pulls from the time I first used it, and the lawn mower has always been a reliable starter as well.
I fog them for storage as recommended either with Seafoam or some other fogging agent and drain the gas out of each one before storage.
This is what I use
It came highly recommended from a small engine repair shop.
Where can you find ethanol free gasoline? Not around here!
Where do you find 94 octane ?
You can Google “ethanol free gas”....in my area www.local.com has a tag for ethanol free gas that brings up a lot of stations that have it.
I’ve always used the Stihl oil in my blower. It is expensive compared to regular 2-cyl. oil, but I got in the habit when the machine was under warranty. Mine is their smallest model, so it is very economical—I have had the same can of gas/oil (and stabilizer) for 2 seasons now. This kind of proprietary situation is becoming more common with many types of machines. My auto mechanic surprised me recently with a discourse on how many brand-specific kinds of anti-freeze are in use now. I just figure you have to be a smart consumer and ask about these kind of details before you buy, so you aren’t shocked by these seemingly hidden costs later!
If only they supplied some sort of manual when you bought the thing.
Way to go Dave,always one on every thread.
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