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DOJ says Apple should be forced to unlock encrypted user data if asked by government
9 to 5 Mac ^ | October 24, 2014 | By Chance Miller

Posted on 10/25/2015 6:38:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Earlier this week, Apple stated that it would be nearly impossible for it to access the data on a passcode-locked iOS device running iOS 8 or later. The company also noted, however, that even if it were possible, it would not feel comfortable doing so as to not tarnish the trust it shares with its customers. The Department of Justice has now dismissed that argument, saying that Apple should be required to unlock encrypted data because iOS is “licensed, not sold” to customers (via DailyDot).

“Apple designed, manufactured, and sold [the phone] that is the subject of the search warrant,” the government told U.S. Magistrate Judge James Orenstein. “But that is only the beginning of Apple’s relationship to the phone and to this matter. Apple wrote and owns the software that runs the phone, and this software is thwarting the execution of the warrant.”

The specific case in which the U.S. government needs an iPhone unlocked relates to executing a search warrant on a suspect indicted for possession of methamphetamine. Apple argues that decrypting a phone in one case would set a precedent that would only burden the company in the future, taxing its resources, employees, software, and equipment. “This burden,” Apple said, “increases as the number of government requests increases.”

The DOJ, of course, rejected this argument, saying that Apple shows no attempt to quantify the burden of which it speaks, nor does it show any evidence.

Apple also argues that aiding government requests for user data would hurt its reputation to the public due to the level to which sensitivity to digital privacy has risen. The company says that this harm to its reputation to could have a lasting economic impact. Earlier this week, Tim Cook spoke out against software backdoors, again voicing Apple’s support for privacy for its customers

As you would expect, the DOJ also rejects this argument, again saying Apple provided no concrete evidence to support its claims.

The government rejected this argument, saying that Apple offered no concrete evidence that reputational concerns constituted an “undue burden” as defined by law.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: apple; applepinglist; ios; macos; nsa
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1 posted on 10/25/2015 6:38:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

Apple hasn’t already given the backdoor key to 0bama?


2 posted on 10/25/2015 6:40:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Paladin2

Did you HAVE to use the terms “Obama” and “back door” in the same sentence?


3 posted on 10/25/2015 6:43:05 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Swordmaker

GFY G-Man....


4 posted on 10/25/2015 6:44:03 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Swordmaker
The obstructers of justice [Lois Lerner felonies] in the Department of Justice can shove it up their felonious Obamas.

Don't make us pull this van over, DOJ. The adults are getting sick of your backseat whining.

5 posted on 10/25/2015 6:47:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (Maya: "Liberalism Is What Smart Looks Like to Stupid People")
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To: Paladin2

They gave up their right when they took the “investment”, by the givernment, under the 1996 Telecom Act.


6 posted on 10/25/2015 6:47:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Swordmaker

This is sounding a lot like Apple trying desperately to avoid admitting that they’ve added their own secret backdoors and they don’t want their users to know.

If Apple had been using seeing encryption, as they should have been, they’d just have said that they were unable to recover the data.


7 posted on 10/25/2015 6:48:32 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Swordmaker

Looks like Apple cannot even break their own encryption.

Well get the NSA to give it a try. ;-)


8 posted on 10/25/2015 6:50:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Swordmaker

How funny. Apple users think the DOJ should be far more open when WE THE PEOPLE ask for information.


9 posted on 10/25/2015 6:52:39 PM PDT by Big Giant Head
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To: Swordmaker

The question is how many companies have given back doors to Obama?


10 posted on 10/25/2015 6:52:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Swordmaker

I guess they aren’t interested in the data on my Samsung flip phone—LOL!


11 posted on 10/25/2015 6:52:44 PM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: Swordmaker

I guess they aren’t interested in the data on my Samsung flip phone—LOL!


12 posted on 10/25/2015 6:52:44 PM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: Paladin2

There isn’t one.


13 posted on 10/25/2015 6:52:53 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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The DOJ seems to think that Apple merely has to change its End User License Agreement to allow them to have a means of getting into iPhones, iPads, or iPod touches with a backdoor, and that Apple is merely using legal objections in claiming they literally cannot comply with any court orders to assist opening iOS devices for search warrants. Even the statement that "Apple . . . claimed it would be nearly impossible to it to access the data on a passcode-locked iOS device running iOS 8 or later" demonstrates the abyss that separates the technological gap between the lawyers arguing this case and the mathematicians who have constructed the 256 bit AES encryption Apple uses to lock their devices. When entangled with the UUID of the device, with multiple-attempt lockouts, it is, in practice, impossible to break the encryption of such an encrypted device, not merely an academic legal exercise. — PING!


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14 posted on 10/25/2015 6:53:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Play the audio of R Lee Ermey’s lines from Full Metal Jacket for them.
Why?
Oh, no reason.
They could stand to hear the DYSD line on repeat for hours every time they ask for back doors into my papers.


15 posted on 10/25/2015 6:55:26 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: jdege

That’s exactly what Apple has been saying. They CAN’T unlock the phone’s data. There is no back door.
And Apple is also saying that if they ARE compelled to implement the back door, that’s about as secure as just leaving the data unlocked.


16 posted on 10/25/2015 6:55:52 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
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To: AFreeBird

Difficult to believe that the BOFHs would have left one out.


17 posted on 10/25/2015 6:57:03 PM PDT by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: Red Steel

That’s the point: phone security do good that you’d need the NSA’s acres of supercomputers to break it (if possible at all).


18 posted on 10/25/2015 6:58:05 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
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To: jdege

Apple has no, zero, nada, way in after iOS 7. That is the argument, the gummint wants in with iOS 7 (who is using that any more?)

iOS 8, 9, and all future versions are inaccessible to ANYONE including Apple.


19 posted on 10/25/2015 6:59:01 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Paladin2
Apple hasn’t already given the backdoor key to 0bama?

Apple does not even have a backdoor that allows them to open their devices. . . so how can they give a non-existent back-door key to Obama? So, the answer to your question is NO. In fact, The Hacker Team, the company which sells the tools to break into mobile devices to the NSA, CIA, FBI, MI6, KGB, the Sureté, and all the other clandestine and other police forces around the world has admitted that although they do have the means to crack into every mobile device in the world, including jailbroken iOS devices, they DO NOT have the means to break into the un-jailbroken iOS 8 or later devices such as iPhones, iPads, or iPod touches. They are offering a $1 million bounty to anyone who can provide a hack that can provide a means to do it. So far, no one has come forward with that hack.

20 posted on 10/25/2015 6:59:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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