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Thinking the unthinkable: A case for orchestration
10/2/2015 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 10/02/2015 7:23:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I am increasingly suspicious -- almost convinced -- that these spree-shootings are orchestrated. Let us consider: Only days after Boehner resigns (but stays around through October, able to defy his base) TWO mass shooting events occur within hours of one another: The college in Oregon, and a lesser-publicized Inglis, Florida mass-shooting.

If Obama seemed angry, I suspect it was because the second shooting was so small. Note how the two shootings make a perfect diagonal across the country, symbolically book-ending us with violence.

It's really hard to be the point-man in this controversial subject -- that the mentally-ill and medicated can and are manipulated to commit acts of mass murder for political gain -- but point-man, I shall be. I'll take the catcalls of "conspiracy theorist" and "tin foil hat wearer" and so on. So long as the dialogue is started, I'll take the heat.

It is actually well-known that low-level microwave radiation can cause deleterious mental effects on the brain:

Effect of low level microwave radiation exposure on cognitive function and oxidative stress in rats.

Non-Thermal Effect of Microwave Radiation on Human Brain

Nervous and behavioral effects of microwave radiation in humans.

Some of the effects are irritability, sleeplessness, and bad decision-making skills. In the 1970's, the Soviets were bombarding the American embassy in Moscow with these radiations. We objected strongly, and our cover-story was that there were passive eavesdropping devices in the walls... but from the publicly-available research, we know that there was an additional -- perhaps primary -- concern. That concern was that our personnel's mental acuity was lessened by these radiations.

This microwave effect is something we already know is factual. This research is public. What research is there, classified as secret (or beyond) on manipulating and directing a mentally-ill, medicated individual to perform acts suggested by a handler?

The CIA has had decades of experience in 'handling' people, by an agent, to perform actions that are in the Agency's best interests. The experience is out there.

Before anyone tells me that Obama and his minions would never allow innocents to come to harm in order to advance a gun control agenda, I remind you of Fast and Furious (the ATF gun-running scandal). In this scandal, semi-automatic firearms were allowed to end up in the hands of Mexican drug gangs. Many innocent people died, slain by the firearms made available by Fast and Furious. Obama has shown quite clearly, the ability to promote the death of innocent people so that he can get his precious gun bans.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fbi; massshooting; mentalillness; microwaveradiation; schoolshooting; schoolshootings; tinhat
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To: defconw

Wait. What? Two different people for the father? Please explain.


101 posted on 10/02/2015 9:45:44 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: zzeeman; Boogieman
Boogieman, you need to read some history and heed zzeeman:

Any one thinking that gubmint could "never" stoop to such lows, and would "never" be able to accomplish such, just needs to look into MKUltra and other such programs. (And keep in mind, this stuff was started decades ago, the advances in pharmacology alone makes those early efforts look like child's play.)

102 posted on 10/02/2015 9:46:12 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: txrefugee; Lazamataz

That was what I was thinking, that the timing for this Oregon shooting was highly suspicious to have the MSM look the other way on the Russia/Syria/Putin debacle until 0bama can get his SXIT together.


103 posted on 10/02/2015 9:46:52 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Lazamataz; 1Old Pro; Norm Lenhart

"...Furthermore, I predict we will see mass-shootings timed to occur at or near the same time, in two, three, and four places around the country.

To me, this will merely be more proof of the orchestration of these events..."



Excellent point, Laz. We will see more simultaneous violence as Obama seeks a "crescendo of events" in the lead-up to Election Day.
It will be very interesting to see if these alleged "unpredictable gun tragedies" occur in swing states and/or states with substantial electoral vote power.


104 posted on 10/02/2015 9:47:02 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Finny

Finny, we got people running around here still defending Mitt Romney. Nothing should shock you.


105 posted on 10/02/2015 9:47:40 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Finny

I probably have forgotten more about history than you’ve ever known.


106 posted on 10/02/2015 9:47:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lazamataz

Middle link study no longer working so I found another one here.

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/227317313_Non-Thermal_Effect_of_Microwave_Radiation_on_Human_Brain

I was wondering if there is a way to detect these waves, and in response to CIA manipulation, sounds like we all need to be educated on that. Will do some research and get back to you.

My main question, which will support your theory, is “If the social internet is actually being watched (and it is) then why were his posts ALLOWED TO CONTINUE, and why was he not stopped?”

Why isn’t there a suicide watch list, too, with parents and friends being alerted to the seriousness of anyone talking about it. Might as well put the surveillance to good use.


107 posted on 10/02/2015 9:48:07 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Oh he made us the No.1 financer of terror before the iran deal. along with his GOP lackies, he’s been shipping them weapons, releasing their terror leaders from Gitmo and hamstringing the military for 7 years or so.

Then he gifted them Iraq and all the literal billions worth of hardware and weapons we left behind and trained the Iraqui/now ISIS types to use as if by magic.”

I was speaking for the FReeper masses, but yes, this is all true, and verified. Have a great weekend.


108 posted on 10/02/2015 9:48:16 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Lazamataz
Oh, absolutely, and I really hope I'm respectful in pointing out that they would certainly have been skeptical -- to say the least -- in the early 1940s.
109 posted on 10/02/2015 9:48:40 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: SaveFerris; Lazamataz

I think it needs to be changed to “tin foil hat WARRIOR”, to reflect the courage of the wearer.


110 posted on 10/02/2015 9:48:59 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Boogieman

Which appears to indicate the problem.


111 posted on 10/02/2015 9:49:46 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t believe Sandy Hook had no victims, or was staged outright. I do question what handling may have happened to the shooter.


112 posted on 10/02/2015 9:50:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
It's not just obola.


113 posted on 10/02/2015 9:52:23 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

OK gotcha. As to the freeper masses, well, look who they vote for.


114 posted on 10/02/2015 9:53:36 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lazamataz

Your posts regularly piss me off, you seem to be positively attracted to going too far. But this time you’ve done very well, and I must agree. There is a very noticeable pattern here no one is talking about.

In addition to microwaves, which have been literally multiplied by a billion by cell towers, antidepressants are also rife, especially amongst the Left. And the symptoms of each multiply the other.

Good job.

P.S. Notice I have heroically refrained from discussing the influence of heavy metal poisoning from chemtrails.


115 posted on 10/02/2015 9:53:42 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Boogieman
probably have forgotten more about history than you’ve ever known.

It sure looks like it! {^) You're forgetting a LOT of history, and relatively recent history at that.

So of course you are gullible. Ignorant people are gullible people.

116 posted on 10/02/2015 9:54:11 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, I don’t think you are far afield with these thoughts.

I have the same ones.

The shooters are youngish men, usually under some type of psychiatric care, or known to be weird.

The “minders”, the pysch docs, usually have some connection to the Dept. of Defense. This was so in the Aurora theater shooting and the I believe the Sandy Hook shooting. I am not sure about the Navy Yard guy.

We had POWS in the Korean War undergo mind control experiments—hence the movie “Manchurian Candidate” in 1962 with Frank Sinatra.

The movie “Telefon” with Lee Remick (sigh!) and Charles Bronson dealt with delayed programming via telephone call, whereas a Soviet sleeper agent was activated to do harm to targets, preprogrammed into the mind.

The speed with which Obama got on TV yesterday, with His totally predictable and nauseating fake anger, shows he needed to get in front of this situation to milk it for maximum effect.

Notice the complete lack of anger when five military recruiters are slaughtered, or when his buddy Rahm’s city, Chicago, experiences more gun violence than any other place in the country on a consistent basis, despite the strictest gun control laws in the US.

I am tired of this routine. Mass shootings started with Clinton’s Presidency, many of them in schools.

Soon, with ISIS and other Perps, we will see malls and shopping centers targeted, perhaps even sporting venues.

And no, I do not trust anyone in Homeland Security to protect us.

For all we know, they are part of the problem.


117 posted on 10/02/2015 9:56:38 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Finny

Have you even bothered to READ the unclassified MKULTRA documents?

I seriously doubt it, because if you had, you would know the experiments, for the purposes you guys were talking about, were an unmitigated failure!

So much for you “knowing history”. Ha!


118 posted on 10/02/2015 9:56:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Finny

I’ve already debunked that lie you like to post many, many times.


119 posted on 10/02/2015 9:57:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lazamataz

Its all psychological manipulation with a little assistance from operatives. Just an example of how it could be pulled off...

1. Set the goal - create mass shooting at X location.
2. Identify target matching psychological profile that would carry out the act. Example - troubled college student with psycholoical problems that is unconfident, has relatiobship problems, one parent family, has anger issues, pays attention or has commented on social problems in social media, is under psychologists’s care, is on psychotropic drugs
3. Engage target online speaking to issues that anger him acting setting up a profile that appears as the perfect adversary; if he is black, be white supremist; make statements will provoke him over and over into it forments into rage. Make him feel inferior like you are looking down on him. Dare him.
4. Ensure that he gets access to a gun via using an operative who is a plant that befriends him using a cover as a student. Plant thoughts that he needs to buy one for self ptotection from the white supremist buddy. Show him websites that feed the hatred and violence to solve his “problem” (other white people).
5. Create emotional disturbances and events that will cause hime to need to unleash. If he has a girlfriend steer her to a white man. She dumps him. He now wants revenge.
6. Make sure he takes his meds...

In other words steer him right down the channel to the target incident. All the while he is being monitored and evaluated to ensure that he is manipulated to commit acts if violence that he feels are justified in his drug addled state...


120 posted on 10/02/2015 9:58:08 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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