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Apple car might be a disaster
CS Monitor ^ | 09/23/2015 | By Richard Read

Posted on 09/23/2015 5:16:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Yesterday morning, we reported that Apple had discussed requirements for testing autonomous cars on California's public roads with the state's Department of Motor Vehicles. At the end of that article, we made some predictions about Apple's automotive plans, and we guessed that, based on Apple's track record with making sleek, desirable consumer goods, it was probably planning to make cars, too. (Unlike Google, which may be just about the software.)

Within moments, our hunches were confirmed. Citing everyone's favorite sources -- "people familiar with the matter" -- the Wall Street Journal reported that that Apple plans to complete its first vehicle in 2019.

When consumers will be able to drive away in those vehicles remains unclear. If the report is accurate, however, it does share a couple of interesting details about Apple's first car:

1. The car won't be fully autonomous -- at least, not at first. Like Tesla, Apple is focused on electrification, with autonomous features to roll out over time, until vehicles are fully self-driving.

2. "Project Titan" is about to become a major line-item in Apple's budget. Sources suggest that Apple plans to triple the size of its as-yet-unconfirmed car division from 600 employees to around 1,800.

Of course, when there's car news like this, the media wants to talk to someone who knows a bit about the automotive business. That's why CNBC rang up industry legend Bob Lutz and asked him about Apple's plans.

Not surprisingly, the notoriously gruff Lutz was pretty dismissive, suggesting that Apple was standing on the brink of a "gigantic money pit". His rationale?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Travel
KEYWORDS: apple; applecar
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1 posted on 09/23/2015 5:16:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It will be yuge!


2 posted on 09/23/2015 5:18:35 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: SeekAndFind
Good news for what's left of Detroit.

The fag that runs Apple is so damned politically correct that instead of manufacturing profitable gas-driven cars, he's going for non-profitable electric cars.

Good luck with that.

3 posted on 09/23/2015 5:26:52 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

...It will be yuge!...

Or, will it be Yugo? We know how well that worked out.


4 posted on 09/23/2015 5:29:53 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Apple is simply trying to avoid taxes.

They will probably get the government to by these cars, and then they get a huge tax write off.


5 posted on 09/23/2015 5:33:03 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: SeekAndFind

Johnny the Fruit cab.....

The jokes write themselves.


6 posted on 09/23/2015 5:37:36 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Trump to win! He wins, we win, the nation wins!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can see sitting in the parking lot frustrated trying to shut off my Apple car. “Where’s the damn slide bar!”


7 posted on 09/23/2015 5:59:32 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: SeekAndFind
"Apple car might be a disaster"

I can certainly see why:


8 posted on 09/23/2015 6:04:29 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will it be like everything Apple makes:

Made in China?


9 posted on 09/23/2015 6:05:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s the real scoop on Apple Cars, with complete details:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-car-round-up-what-we-know-so-far-201932036.html


10 posted on 09/23/2015 6:08:26 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

That’s funny!

I think Apple is betting that while urban hipsters are reputed to love things like bicycles, mass transit, and car sharing, they’d really prefer their very own transportation module. And as Tesla shows, will pay outlandish sums (and suck up hundreds of millions in government subsidies) to obtain a politically correct vehicle.


11 posted on 09/23/2015 6:14:59 PM PDT by nascarnation (C. Edmund Wright says I'm a moron)
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To: catnipman

*chuckle* — good image.


12 posted on 09/23/2015 6:17:09 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nascarnation
There's nothing politically correct about an electrical car. Electric cars consume more resources than their gas-powered counterparts.

That said, there is a future in electrical cars and eventually they will perhaps be more efficient and will make more sense. I won't be an early adopter but I look forward to seeing what develops in the meantime.

13 posted on 09/23/2015 6:20:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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To: SamAdams76

You and I may know that, but query any Tesla owner (or 80% of the people living in California) and you won’t get that view.


14 posted on 09/23/2015 6:23:24 PM PDT by nascarnation (C. Edmund Wright says I'm a moron)
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To: SamAdams76

I’m hoping that they get them to work before I get too old to drive. I just hope it stores destinations like a GPS; otherwise I can see my senile self typing in Jacksonville FL instead of Jacksonville NC.


15 posted on 09/23/2015 6:28:23 PM PDT by fini
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To: SeekAndFind
In imagining a future where "cars drive themselves", and that technology under the control of a "Lois Learner" styled "government official" who hates and specifically targets conservatives, Christians and those seeking to uphold the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law; I am reminded of the apropo scene from I ROBOT where Will Smith's car doors suddenly lock, and say locked while a myriad of miscreant robots attack his vehicle, all the while saying in a calm, cold, calculating voice: "You are experiencing an accident!", "You are experiencing an accident!"

Cars that "safely lock you inside and drive themselves", under the absolute control of government bureaucrats... What could possibly go wrong?

16 posted on 09/23/2015 9:55:04 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Almighty Jehovah, deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
With no knowledge of what Apple is doing CS Monitor announces that Apple's car might be a disaster. Sounds like what insiders in the cellular phone industry were saying in 2007. —PING!


Apple Car Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

17 posted on 09/24/2015 12:50:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: SamAdams76

Apple has a patent on a hydrogen fuel cell using a dry source of hydrogen that will power an iPhone for over two weeks . . . in the same space of a normal iPhone and it’s refuelable. Think about that technology scaled up to a car.


18 posted on 09/24/2015 12:54:43 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: catnipman
Is that a new limo for il Papa Rosso?
19 posted on 09/24/2015 1:06:18 AM PDT by cynwoody
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Except that's exactly the advantage that Apple has employed to create millions upon millions of iPhones, iPads, and other much-loved devices. Apple doesn't build the iPhone, it has suicidally inclined workers at Foxconn do all that.

This author demonstrates his clueless lack of awareness by use of that myth. The suicide rate at Foxconn even at its highest point in 2010, was one quarter of that of the same age group for China's population in general, one-eighth that of the same age group of American Ivy League University students, and one-twentieth that of the overall US suicide rate for all ages. . . And it is FAR LOWER in the past five years, when they've had fewer than ten suicides among all their 1.5 million workers at all their plants!

During an 18 month period centered around 2010, there had been a total of 18 suicides, none of which involved workers at an Apple product assembly plant. The cluster of eight suicides occurred at a factory assembling Microsoft Xboxes, HP Computers, Nokia cell phones, and Sony Playstations.

Even then, the suicide rate among Foxconn's workers was less than 0.75 per 100,000 per year.

20 posted on 09/24/2015 1:16:57 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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