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Fiorina's Huge Misrepresentation Last Night Could Injure the Planned Parenthood Debate
Vanity ^ | 17 Sep 15

Posted on 09/17/2015 5:16:28 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins
Whether it was misguided or not, you can bet that her "face" applause line directed at Trump will get all the air-play in the post debate condensed news segments.

She, likely inadvertently, helped Cruz and's upcoming one-man opposition to Planned Parenthood funding, to that segment of the Republican electorate who too easily bought the RNC/McConnell official "but Obama will veto it anyway" excuse.

21 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:54 AM PDT by Prospero (Omnis caro fenum)
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To: xzins

It may have been morally wrong to bomb Dresden, but the Nazis started it.


22 posted on 09/17/2015 5:27:16 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Sanders/Cruz in 2016!)
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To: xzins

Good. Let her explain it to every mainstream media outlet. And she can describe it in detail.

That’s a losing position? I don’t think so.


23 posted on 09/17/2015 5:27:32 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOP)
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To: DH

I agree that the process is manipulated in her favor.

However, the media is in the tank for whomever the democratic candidate will be. It is at that point, if she were the nominee, that the media will paint her as a person willing to gloss the truth for emotional effect.


24 posted on 09/17/2015 5:27:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins
t was a huge mistake on her part to misrepresent what was portrayed. I caught it immediately as she said it. I also knew it would be picked up by the media, and it has been.

The media is the media. They do what they do.

I wish she would take the opportunity to explain the net result is still a dead child.

I have no doubt that people will seize on her error. Some of that is perhaps due the discussions about how child's organs are harvested with indifference and in effect enthusiasm by the people recorded. There are people at work who are very pro-choice but are aghast at what was recorded.

25 posted on 09/17/2015 5:27:40 AM PDT by Fury
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To: xzins

Yes, that is the quote, but she was describing the video that she said they should watch. And, that’s what was on the video. That the comment was not specific to the baby being shown isn’t really material to what she said.

She was quite precise, accurate and effective in her statement.

(But she’s probably about #6-8 on the list of candidates I’d support.)


26 posted on 09/17/2015 5:28:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mazda77

It must be raised factually. She didn’t.


27 posted on 09/17/2015 5:28:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: Vaquero

Not if her words are provably wrong.


28 posted on 09/17/2015 5:29:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

According to this transcript these are her exact words.

FIORINA: As regards Planned Parenthood, anyone who has watched this videotape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, it’s heart beating, it’s legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.

http://time.com/4037239/second-republican-debate-transcript-cnn/


29 posted on 09/17/2015 5:29:20 AM PDT by McGruff (The angry majority has awoken.)
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To: xzins

Hmmm....anyone maybe misrepresenting their net worth a tad? Misrepresenting their use of bankruptcy laws? Misrepresenting their deportation plans?

Just sayin....


30 posted on 09/17/2015 5:29:24 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: xzins

That’s okay. I do not think their impact will be lessened, but that’s just me.

Regardless, I think the imperative here is not to give PP a “pass” on anything as a result of these CMP videos or one candidate’s interpretation of them. This is clearly a case where national outrage should prevail.


31 posted on 09/17/2015 5:29:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DH
They made a special exception to the rules to allow 11 instead of the original 10 to debate. The reason? She was a female and all of the others were male. So? What is the solution? That’s right! Bend the rules to allow 11 to debate.

What "rules"? It's a TV show. They want ratings. They kind of aped Fox News, but they knew Fiorina would draw more viewers, so they tacked her on. It's not like there's some Constitutional clause or amendment violated by her presence up there.

32 posted on 09/17/2015 5:29:43 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: McGruff

If that is an accurate transcript - then she did NOT say the harvesting is shown on the video - she says the discussion of the harvesting is on the video.

I can understand the confusion, but that’s what those words really mean.


33 posted on 09/17/2015 5:31:15 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: mazda77

Fiorina does yeoman work on abortion and Planned Parenthood but she is otherwise pretty much an Establishment Republican. She would make a great HHS secretary for the 30 days before HHS is abolished.


34 posted on 09/17/2015 5:31:48 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: xzins

Not the point.

In order for them to refute the claim they have to draw attention to the videos. Videos that a vast majority of the American people have never seen as the MSM has all but ignored them.

The more people who see the videos the easier it is to sell the idea of cutting funding to Planned Parenthood. Remember the fight isn’t about abortion per say. It is about the use of government funds, $500,000,000 in Federal Funds alone, going to Planned Parenthood.

Anyone who sees those videos finds them shocking to their very core as they are incredibly disturbing.


35 posted on 09/17/2015 5:33:17 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Cruz was definitely on point last night. Again, a dumb format, contrived efforts to create conflict, and a terrible effort at balancing air time. All for the purpose of ‘reality TV’.

But, through it all, Cruz was clear, concise, precise, and the star of the truth.


36 posted on 09/17/2015 5:33:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

I don’t believe that. It is true that this goes on and that is all that counts. People on the fence on the LIFE issue could be tipped to the pro-life side by this.


37 posted on 09/17/2015 5:34:35 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, ITS legs kicking, while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest ITS brain

She did say the baby in question was on the video. To say she wasn't is not to read the clear English.

38 posted on 09/17/2015 5:36:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: xzins

ICarly was in Shillary mode. Not fit for prime time. Tokyo Rove was leg humpin her on Faux News.


39 posted on 09/17/2015 5:36:30 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Vaquero

People on the fence will hear that she misrepresented what is there.


40 posted on 09/17/2015 5:36:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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