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Donald Trump: Carly Fiorina was even worse at Lucent than at HP
Fortune ^ | September 16, 2015, 9:46 PM EDT | Claire Zillman

Posted on 09/17/2015 3:49:52 AM PDT by RC one

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To: RC one

Carly, previously unknown sister of Iris.


61 posted on 09/17/2015 12:26:20 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: delchiante

Different gates. One is the inner court and the other the outer gate. Then it makes sense.


62 posted on 09/17/2015 12:56:23 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
So by that logic, we can't fault Obama for anything if the US survives? The air sort of comes right out of that argument when you think about it.

When half of your sector is going out of business, slimming down the business, re-positioning it in the market, and surviving is a success.

Blaming Fiorina for layoffs during the Tech Bust is like blaming FDR for dead soldiers in the years 1942-45. If she had tried to preserve every job, they would have probably lost them all.

63 posted on 09/17/2015 1:00:26 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (December 4, 2015 will be Hillary Clinton's Coming Out Day)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

All right then, calc it out yourself and use whatever deflator you think is appropriate. Either way he didn’t out perform a broad market index. That index is the normal way to judge if a money manager is good or bad. If they hit past it, then they’re good. If they don’t, then they’re not.

Soros, Koch and Buffet hit past it. Romney and Trump don’t. Both Romney and Trump told us they’re great businessmen hire us to run the country.

No thanks.


64 posted on 09/17/2015 1:12:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Ezekiel 46:1 isn’t detailing ‘different gates’..
it is the same ‘gate of the inner court that faces east’

That gate is to be shut the 6 Work Days(1-6). But on the Sabbath Day (7th) it shall be opened.. AND on the day of the New Moon (8)

Ezekiel 46:1 is clear. That is 8 days..if it said 5 Work Days, it would be a total of 7.

With study, one can see why He said it the way He did. The answer is back in Genesis. And in a place like Revelation 12..and Daniel 7:25.

But again, it takes people who can count like He counts..

And you yourself said people are innumerate.

When people count like He does,lots of stuff starts to make more sense.
And why nobody on that panel is qualified to rule and reign in His Kingdom.

They are certainly qualified to rule and reign in this counterfeit world though


65 posted on 09/17/2015 1:13:07 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: BBB333

Trump blames Carly. Why not blame overseas competition on her failures? Why are you making excuses for Trump?

Why give Trump the pass he won’t afford to others? Hypocrisy is par for the course when it comes to Trump.

Other candidates must run against their records. Trump gets to run against Trump’s promises. Nice try.


66 posted on 09/17/2015 1:20:43 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Haiku Guy
Blaming Fiorina for layoffs during the Tech Bust is like blaming FDR for dead soldiers in the years 1942-45.

Nonsense

The tech market dropped somewhere around 25%, while HP, under Carly's leadership, tanked 50%. THAT is something she should be held accountable for, not the market overall, but how HP did compared to the rest of the market.

If she had tried to save every job, perhaps they would have lost them all. Same thing if HP had tried to save Carly, rather than sending her packing a few years in. Meanwhile, she's out there claiming everything was great.You apparently bought it.

67 posted on 09/18/2015 5:08:35 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: 1010RD

Your post makes no sense whatsoever.


68 posted on 09/18/2015 5:53:42 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: BBB333

Trump’s failures - caused by market conditions.

Fiorina’s failures - caused by Fiorina or market conditions?

Trump supporters cannot see his faults, but the faults of others are bright in their eyes. Kind of like hero worshippers.

Can you see the hypocrisy now?


69 posted on 09/18/2015 6:09:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

No.

Carly has ZERO accomplishments.

Trump, about 10 billion of ‘em.


70 posted on 09/18/2015 6:48:46 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: BBB333

You’re a true believer, FRiend. Some FReepers, you just can’t reach.


71 posted on 09/18/2015 1:48:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper
Nonsense

The tech market dropped somewhere around 25%, while HP, under Carly's leadership, tanked 50%. THAT is something she should be held accountable for, not the market overall, but how HP did compared to the rest of the market.

The NASDAQ went from 5000 to 1200. That is a 76% loss. There was only 25% left after the fall, so I can see where you made your mistake...

The stock price is complicated because of the Compaq merger, but if your 50% loss figure is taken at face value, HP significantly outperformed the NASDAQ.

72 posted on 09/18/2015 2:43:12 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (December 4, 2015 will be Hillary Clinton's Coming Out Day)
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To: 1010RD

I’d prefer that your imbecility not reach me anymore.


73 posted on 09/19/2015 5:37:22 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: RC one

They can’t have someone win that might deport the illegals, build the wall, and test the liberal interpretation of the 14th amendment. Basically, it’s anybody but Trump for the GOPe.


Yup


74 posted on 09/19/2015 5:40:18 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/(Cruz or Palin))
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To: 1010RD

“At best he’s worth $3 billion so that’s a negative $5 billion growth rate.”

Only an idiot would call growing something a “negative”. You are using terms improperly just to try to lampoon Trump. What a liberal.


75 posted on 09/19/2015 5:47:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: driftdiver

I’d take Cruz in a heartbeat over Trump.


For what its worth. In the end I think the last 2 standing will be Ted & Donald. Ted is the one who Trump listens to when he’s talking.


76 posted on 09/19/2015 5:53:30 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: CodeToad

He didn’t manage his daddy’s inheritance very well. That’s the point. Cutting and pasting my comments out of context is a lie, but you knew that.


77 posted on 09/19/2015 5:56:11 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BBB333

I won’t ever stoop again.


78 posted on 09/19/2015 5:56:49 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You should leave FR and go elsewhere. Get around people who will be impressed by your great judgment and intellect.

Apparently, you are even better than the whole population.

Get over yourself


79 posted on 09/19/2015 5:59:57 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 1010RD

Walker and to a great extent Rick Perry are Do’ers, but on a debate stage that ability doesn’t shine through.

The formats just don’t allow for here’s my record, and the challenges I have overcome coupled with how I would tackle the countries issues.

The immigration policy statement by Trump never saw the light of day in the debate, as will his second one on the second amendment. The MSM wants Jerry Springer like action.

Therefore these have become free for all take down the opponent.

Carly has rehearsed the bullet point technique of answering which in the end comes through but once that gets some real definition will be subject to much scrutiny.

e.g. Why would you not talk to Putin. He needs to know the US is one to be respected, and yes feared.

Carson also saw a surge because he kept it simple and non combative, while at the same time not showing a lot of detail.

The agenda is set by the MSM , and the GOPe are happy to let them play it out


80 posted on 09/19/2015 6:00:00 AM PDT by patriotspride
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