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Donald Trump: Carly Fiorina was even worse at Lucent than at HP
Fortune ^ | September 16, 2015, 9:46 PM EDT | Claire Zillman

Posted on 09/17/2015 3:49:52 AM PDT by RC one

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To: RC one

Walker. Walker is true to his first and only wife. Raised his sons with her and they’re great young men. Walker prays day and night, reads his scriptures daily and believes in family, is pro-life, pro-marriage and a conservative.

He attacked the heart of big government: the money machine that goes from taxpayer to union to Democrats. If you don’t break that you just get more government which is what got us here today.


21 posted on 09/17/2015 4:42:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RC one

Half the desks in America have a Hewlett Packard printer sitting on top. Almost any company would love to have a “disaster” like that...


22 posted on 09/17/2015 4:42:54 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (December 4, 2015 will be Hillary Clinton's Coming Out Day)
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To: driftdiver

He doesn’t seem to be gaining a lot of traction. He did a great job with the time he had last night though. I will be very curious to see how that works out for him.


23 posted on 09/17/2015 4:42:56 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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To: Haiku Guy

HP stock plunged between the time she started and the time she left. When she began, HP stock was hovering around $55. It was hovering at $19 to $20 when she was fired. Annual revenue growth declined as well. Annual revenue growth decreased from 7% before she started to 3% when she left. HP stock jumped 6.9% the day she was fired. And Lucent crashed and burned shortly after she left thanks to her lending practices. She offshored 10s of thousands of HP jobs and forced American employees to train their offshored counter parts. What a great American.


24 posted on 09/17/2015 4:55:13 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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tripled the rate of innovation, with 11 patents a day.

"Oh look, we have invented 22 more ways to frustrate customers who refill their ink and toner cartridges!
25 posted on 09/17/2015 5:04:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: RC one

She’s a woman. You can’t criticize her. But I bet Trump will. Just look at her track record. Where’s the positives?


26 posted on 09/17/2015 5:07:41 AM PDT by McGruff (The angry majority has awoken.)
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To: 1010RD

You are cherry picking your stock market starting point of 1982. That was a post-recession low caused by the necessary raising of interest rates by the Fed to wring out the inflation of the horrible Carter years. That and the lower tax rates of Reagan caused the stock market to rise starting in 1982.

It is quite disingenuous for you to use that as a starting point.


27 posted on 09/17/2015 5:11:01 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: 1010RD

Wow do you mean he would have avoided the losses so many of us suffered in 2000 and 2008? I would be happy to have turned 200 million into 3 or 4 billion.


28 posted on 09/17/2015 5:12:04 AM PDT by nclaurel
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Add his serial monogamy and trophy wife-ism and you're dealing with a loud mouthed cad.

You could also be describing Rush.

29 posted on 09/17/2015 5:14:46 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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The poor quality and incompetence at Hewlett Packard drove away significant shares of the market to the competitors, Dell and Lenovo. The Hewlett Packard LaserJet printers were for awhile an exception to the disaster while a Packard still managed that division of the company. The quality, such as the Vietnamese plastic/nylon gears in the printer, has since devastated the quality of those products as well. The destruction of a previously competent and trusted domestic customer service later outsourced to an incompetent foreign customer service is notorious. Fiorina committed the sin of eating the seed corn of trust and reliability for short term gains that vanished along with her job as the long term consequences of destroying customer trust and loyalty finally made itself painfully evident.


30 posted on 09/17/2015 5:15:48 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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The timing was auspicious since companies like Worldcom, Qwest, and Global Crossing were in the process of laying fiber optic cables around the country and the world.

I lost a six figure investment in global crossing while, terry mcawful, now gubbernator of virginia {the thief should be in jail} made 20 million using insider info.

The only thing that made carly into a CEO was her lack of a visible appendage.

If she wasn't a woman, and had her track record at Lucent, NFW, she would have been selected as CEO at HP.

I competed with HP for years, beat them most of the time, as their stuff was average, the people were not risk takers, and management was more like government than high tech business people.

They lost more deals because they were too slow to react to the situation and she was a large part of it.

My friends from Silicon Valley said she was a bitch to work for and almost impossible to work with {from a vendors prospective}.

I never crossed paths with her directly, so it's all hear/say.

31 posted on 09/17/2015 5:26:00 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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It’s not my starting point, but Forbes’. Nonetheless, you have to compare apples to apples. Trump started with about $100 million in 1968. That’s about $671 million in today’s dollars.

During the 20th century the stock market returned an average of 10.4% a year. We’ve accounted for inflation above, so investing $671 million over 45 years at 10.4%/year gets you to $57 billion.

That’s an imperfect calculation because stocks went up and down over that period, but RE can be sold tax free and most of the rents can be offset by depreciation. So it’s not so bad.

Trump isn’t worth $57 billion. He’s worth $3 billion. So he grew at a rate of only 1/3 of what he would have done against the financial yardstick of stock appreciation.

He’s not a good businessman.


32 posted on 09/17/2015 5:27:38 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: USS Alaska

interesting perspective. I think if she is going to run on nothing but her business record, that record needs some serious scrutiny and once you start looking at it, it doesn’t look like much of a record to me.


33 posted on 09/17/2015 5:30:26 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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Or a lot of other very, very wealthy and powerful men. That’s why I prefer Walker. He like Reagan was raised modestly. Unlike Reagan, he married a woman ten years older than him, stuck with her, raised his own boys and has a terrific family.

My values are conservative and function around family and free markets. The less of either means the loss of the other.


34 posted on 09/17/2015 5:33:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Carly introduced the concept of forced ranking while at lucent then refined it at hp. Lot’s of good people got canned for no good reason. Carly can go f herself.


35 posted on 09/17/2015 5:33:35 AM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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RE has some amazing tax advantages, not the least of which is the ability to sell tax free. Do some research. Trump failed at the casino business which, up until that point, had been thought impossible to do.


36 posted on 09/17/2015 5:34:54 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: printhead

I didn’t know that. My employer is testing the forced ranking waters presently. The ranks only minimally reflect the reality of individual productivity.


37 posted on 09/17/2015 5:38:27 AM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,)
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To: 1010RD

You are an ace at math right there. Jesus


38 posted on 09/17/2015 5:46:00 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: driftdiver

,,,,, I like Cruz also ,,, his problem is the company he is forced to keep in Congress . The insider brand is hurting him for sure . I trust him more than any of the others and I believe he is a true , strict constitutionalist . Trump is saying what people want to hear ,,, they want that fence . I just don’t trust him to deliver the goods ,, in the past he’s been all over the board with his positions on the real key issues . Trump is vague and presents little in the way of solutions other than a fence .


39 posted on 09/17/2015 5:49:02 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: 0bamanomics is the equal distribution of adolescent propaganda & indoctrination :-)
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“Trump failed at the casino business which, up until that point, had been thought impossible to do.”

Blame the non-smoking in NJ Casinos for that. And that’s UNION caused.

Who wants to drive from NYC to AC when they can go to Conn. to gamble AND smoke?

The market says: hardly anyone - and that’s why Atlantic City gaming is dead.

Don’t blame Trump.


40 posted on 09/17/2015 6:04:16 AM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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