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Microsoft Blatantly Ripped Off By Apple, Apple Announces Surface Pen And Touch Cover Clones For iPad
Microsoft News ^ | September 9, 2015 17:38 GMT | Pradeep

Posted on 09/09/2015 11:59:03 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists

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To: VanDeKoik

Microsoft has direct x 12(windows 10) apple does not. The gamer likes PC’s not macs.


21 posted on 09/10/2015 3:40:44 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Remain calm...who is copying who? Here is an Apple tablet with a stylus from 1993 (Newton): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MessagePad Then there was my wife’s favorite, the “Palm Pilot” circa 1997: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PalmPilot Some would say the Surface is an iPad ripoff...who knows, and who cares?


22 posted on 09/10/2015 3:50:39 AM PDT by Drago
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To: Up Yours Marxists

And oddly enough, Microsft was at the event demoing Office with the new pad. Adobe too.


23 posted on 09/10/2015 3:55:59 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Increasingly Executives are carrying iPads instead of notebooks so I see the iPad Pro aimed mainly at them. Given Apple's recent enterprise partnerships with IBM and Cisco, this seems to be part of their strategy to regain a foothold in the enterprise.

What I found most interesting about MSFT's demo of Office on the iPad Pro (besides the irony of the change in relative power vs. Job's humiliation before Gates in the 1997 MacWorld introduction of the original iMac) was how poorly the MSFT products made use of the Apple Pencil. The pencil is designed to allow things like line thickness to be controlled by angles and gestures and yet the MSFT presenter was showing tapping a drop down menu to select line widths, as if this were just a repackaged desktop product (which it obviously is).

Apple was obviously responding to Surface with this product, but they've introduced some interesting refinements that extend the existing iOS ecosystem into new territory. I expect it to do well.

24 posted on 09/10/2015 3:57:24 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Da Coyote

How is Microsoft “done?” They have complete and total dominance of the desktop/PC market. They account for 1/3 of the worldwide web server market and greater than 60% of the general server market. The only market in which they fail to dominate is mobile, but even then, Android dominates that market.

This article is humorous in the sense that 20 years ago Apple fanboys used to say “Windows 95 is Apple X” (where X is the flavor of Apple out at the time). I was too young to argue or care, but one could say that Windows 95 had its similarities to the Apple OS GUI. Here we are, 20 years later, and Apple is being accused of “ripping off Microsoft.” I applaud Apple for their efforts, and I think the sniping between camps is silly.

In the operating system universe, the only OS I don’t trust is Android because it’s a Google product. Google has proven time and time again that it’s not looking out for the best interests of the customer while Microsoft and Apple have provided consistent product lines over the years. Sadly, Apple’s appeal is that their entire platform from hardware to OS to application store is proprietary. This has worked to their advantage in that their platforms are stable and solid workhorses, but the cost is astronomical compared to a PC.

And for all of the Apple “engineers” who claim their IT offices are almost solely Apple products, I’d like to point out that in an overwhelming majority of cases, engineers are using Parallels to run a Windows desktop. The joke around our office is that Apple devices are just expensive terminals. Not a single engineer with whom I work uses an Apple device natively. They’re all doing business productivity and automation tasks on Windows VMs/RDP.


25 posted on 09/10/2015 4:06:03 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Da Coyote

Which is why Microsoft had held a near stranglehold on the desktop market for 25 years?


26 posted on 09/10/2015 4:08:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AustinBill

Apple could make serious gains in the enterprise market by adapting enterprise class functionality for security and configuration management. Apple has refused because they don’t understand business.


27 posted on 09/10/2015 4:12:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

This isn’t a real hate-Apple thread until you attack Tim Cook for being a homosexual.

I give you a 5.5/10


28 posted on 09/10/2015 4:25:03 AM PDT by IncPen (Not one single patriot in Washington, DC.)
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To: driftdiver
To say that the world's largest company "doesn't understand business" seems a bit of a stretch. Given that the value of Apple's iPhone business by itself exceeded MSFT's entire enterprise value a few years after it's introduction suggests that a more apt criticism is that MSFT doesn't understand where technology is really heading.

Apple's choice to disengage from the enterprise was based both on Jobs' decision to focus on the consumer space (obviously the correct decision in retrospect) as well as their desire to build a retail rather than enterprise support infrastructure. Again, given the success of Apple's retail strategy it's hard to dispute that this was a well-conceived and executed plan. A successful retail presence is arguably much harder to achieve than an enterprise one (cf. the MSFT store experience) but Apple is now operating at a scale that they can no longer ignore the enterprise as a growth segment.

Their strategy for re-engagement in the enterprise is twofold: First, to take advantage of the BYOD movement wherein many employees of large corporations already own Apple devices, and second to partner with well-established enterprise heavyweights like IBM and Cisco to provide the needed enterprise applications and support infrastructure. The fact that Apple has the financial means to buy IBM outright if they chose to should give pause to any glib dismissal of their potential in this space.

29 posted on 09/10/2015 4:45:03 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: rarestia

Thanks once again for your voice of sanity!

I don’t understand people who get all hyped up over an operating system.

I’ve been working in the computer industry for 40 years. Started on mainframes. The only Apple then was something you eat or the Beatles’ record label. The only Microsoft was small hobby computers (micros) and soft(ware), which were programs.

Back in the 1990s I became a Linux enthusiast. I was on Torvald’s mailing list from 1994. I had to compile the source code in order to install it. I used to teach Linux classes. I thought it was going places, but it just ran out of steam, and so did I. As I devoted more and more of my career to teaching, the number of people wanting training on Linux dwindled. Around the same time, more and more became interested in getting an NCE or MCSE in Windows NT, so I did too and then started teaching them. I remember installing Netware 2.2 back in the late 80’s (remember net$os.exe?).

Well, Novel just croaked, and Windows—as a network server operating system—took off and made me lots of serious money!

I still like playing with my Linux variants and iPad. Still, I just don’t find enough clients (nowadays I do only some teaching and a lot of higher-level consulting) who want Linux, and of course, Apple has no serious server-level systems.

But I don’t hate Microsoft. I don’t hate Apple. I don’t hate Linux. I don’t even hate Google. They’re all good.
Image a world without them.

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation!


30 posted on 09/10/2015 4:46:55 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: AustinBill

Hype is hype. What goes up fast comes down fast.


31 posted on 09/10/2015 5:28:03 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AustinBill
Again, given the success of Apple's retail strategy it's hard to dispute that this was a well-conceived and executed plan.

Well, that certainly explains Microsoft having a paltry 90% of the desktop OS market.

32 posted on 09/10/2015 5:44:35 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Android had it first


33 posted on 09/10/2015 5:49:45 AM PDT by dila813
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To: driftdiver

A $700B company doesn’t understand business?

Oookay.....


34 posted on 09/10/2015 5:59:06 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

See you don’t get it either. They make their money off the consumer. All their products are focused on the private consumer.

Which is why they don’t take into account the needs of the business with their products. Apple products are difficult to manage according to corporate standards.

In my business BYOD is going by the wayside. More and more of my business customers are finding it to be more trouble then its worth regardless of what the device is. Because business customers are required by law and good business practice to control what happens in their networks.


35 posted on 09/10/2015 6:06:45 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AustinBill

BTW, do you know what market saturation is?


36 posted on 09/10/2015 6:08:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Digital drawing pads have been around for a while... see Wacom.

hardly a Microsoft invention.


37 posted on 09/10/2015 6:19:21 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Digital drawing pads have been around for a while... see Wacom.

hardly a Microsoft invention.


38 posted on 09/10/2015 6:19:26 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Up Yours Marxists

True Apple cult members will happily snap those useless items up.


39 posted on 09/10/2015 6:27:34 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Section 20.)
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To: driftdiver

Okay, I get it now. I can’t believe I didn’t see it before. Apple runs their $700B company on PCs running windows!


40 posted on 09/10/2015 6:27:46 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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