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Solitaire? Windows DVD player? Really
1 posted on 08/06/2015 6:37:30 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: dayglored; ShadowAce

For your lists. . . Windows 10 will charge subscriptions for services such as Solitaire and Windows DVD Player??? WTF????


2 posted on 08/06/2015 6:38:40 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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They are handing the market to other technologies on a silver platter.


4 posted on 08/06/2015 6:42:58 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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Uh, those are apps, not part of an O/S.


7 posted on 08/06/2015 6:50:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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Suckers!


9 posted on 08/06/2015 6:56:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Phony Crony Trump is a Chump, Cruz is for real, 100%)
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does anyone remember the days when a customer bought a program for his/her computer and never had to pay another penny?

If you write the program correctly the first time, there is no need for endless updates.

as for viruses, worms, adware, malware simple solution: any computer geek caught writing such a program spends the rest of his/her life in the worst prison we can find.


10 posted on 08/06/2015 6:56:05 PM PDT by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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Obviously Microsoft has learned very little over the years.


16 posted on 08/06/2015 7:06:23 PM PDT by Lake Living
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Hmm....looks like the trend will force me to decide on which Linux distro to install.


20 posted on 08/06/2015 7:11:56 PM PDT by Shadow44
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We hired tech types are avoiding like the plague until we see when the updates come out and what they fix. We've been seeing a whole laundry list of things that are blowing up users' PCs. I'll stick with 7 for now, TYVM.


21 posted on 08/06/2015 7:12:02 PM PDT by Viking2002 (The Avatar is back by popular request.)
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Microsoft is not looking at the long term. this will open the door to another operating system or people will just move over to apple or an open door system like ubontu.


23 posted on 08/06/2015 7:35:01 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (VORS)
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What a surprise! !


24 posted on 08/06/2015 7:41:49 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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I think the big question for many users will soon be, what is the best Linux platform to upgrade Windows 10 to? That is, one that offers the good stuff that Windows had, but without all the intrusive bloatware, invasiveness, and irritating stupid that Microsquish wants?

Some years ago, a rocket surgeon had the brilliant idea of a refrigerator that could access the Internet. Not once did it cross the mind of anyone involved that there is absolutely no reason to access the Internet from your refrigerator.


25 posted on 08/06/2015 7:44:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Microsoft still trying to figure out how to be APple


26 posted on 08/06/2015 7:48:18 PM PDT by Nifster
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Just use the OS only. Use other apps in place windows apps. They are free and work better...no spyware like MW.


28 posted on 08/06/2015 7:53:46 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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Do the people in Redmond want to push people to Linux?


29 posted on 08/06/2015 7:58:11 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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Jeezus!

How many people really need Solitaire, or even use it?

DVD players? Heck, I’ve had it in Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1. and I’ve never used it. I prefer other ‘free’ options, like VLC?

Apps or applications, when included, get people hooked, and now that Microsoft is playing the same game that Apple and Google and all other apps creators have been playing for many years, people are going to call Microsoft greedy and sneaky and a bait-and-switch artist?

All of us are hypocrites if we can expect that Microsoft will just give away the store, and not expect anything in return. Windows 10 is free, and that’s easily a $100-$500 piece of software. Linux is ‘free’, but, to be productive with it, you’ll have to pay. OSX is ‘free’, but, you’ll be paying a much higher price for the device, which is just another way of saying that, Mac prices include the cost of the OS when the device is purchased. iOS is free, but then, you’ll be paying for the privilege of using the millions of apps which are not free and which you might find worthwhile; same with Android apps, where the OS is free, but not really.

Since when have people expected that, everything in life shold be free? Windows OS is ‘free’, but, there will be costs to get the apps that weren’t included for ‘free’. Who woulda thunk it?

Cry me a river. You wanted a less bulky Windows, and you got it. Now, pay for the stuff that was taken out so that you would have a much better experience with the OS performance.


31 posted on 08/06/2015 8:08:51 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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Really, swordy, this is the best you could come up with?

I’m sure all of the devices that don’t even have a DVD drive will totally fail to function without a DVD video player.

And solitaire? There are plenty of free alternatives for both of these.


33 posted on 08/06/2015 8:20:42 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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I don’t even play solitaire or watch DVDs.


41 posted on 08/06/2015 8:43:22 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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Microsoft will also “accidentally” turn ON all the Privacy settings you turned OFF (I bet never off) after some Windows update. ALL your private information sucked up to Microsoft and 3rd party companies never to retrieved.


43 posted on 08/06/2015 9:00:16 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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My Widows DVD player works fine, and I have found at least 4 free solitaire games in 5 minutes.


47 posted on 08/06/2015 9:20:05 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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For a long time I’ve wondered at how horribly limited a basic windows install is. It is basically th OS, a crappy browser, a really crappy editor, a couple of basic games that look like they were written by anjunior level programmer, and a media player. Some home versions would also have a stripped down version of word. Everything else was a separate thing you had to buy. Want anything beyond a basic word processor? Sorry but you have to buy MS-Office. It didnt even really have anything more than a really primitive batch language. I hesitate to call it that given how primitive the shell is.

Compare it to what you get with a typical Linux system and it’s embarassing.when I install from any major Linux distro, it comes with just about everythimg you could ever want, like web servers, media servers, a full office suite, (or more than one if you prefer). It will have a full featured shell (again, with several options) and also all the tools you could ever want to handle data, like sed/awk/grep. It is such an embarrassment of riches, that the sheer volume of choices available is itself somewhat intimidating to some folks.

Then, there is how routine patches are managed. Every major distro has a modern software management system built in to assist you in installimg software from known repositories. Some are better than others, but they all run rings around anything Microsoft has. I recently installed a fresh copy of MS-Windows 7. After the initial install, that prompted me at several different times to make decisions and enter stuff, it prompted me to install a bunch of “critical” patches. I cant remember the exact number but it was several hundred. Then it rebooted, and propted me to install more critical patches. Then it rebooted, and prompted me to install more critical patches. I thin thwre were 4 separate sets that had to be installed sequentially after rebooting.

Now, compare that to a linux install. I’ve used several different distros, and they all prompt you for all the configuration stuff right up front. You can then walk away from the install until it is done with the installation. Then you reboot, maybe answer ancouple of othernquestions, and you are good to go. When the system tells you you have updates, you say OK, then continue doing stuff until it’s done, or you do what I normally do and go to bed. That way, when you get up, your computer is ready for you. An initial rebootnis normally advised because you will have updated your kernel. Do that and you dont have to worry about it until there are more updates a few weeks, or longer down the line.

Even for distros that update more frequently, reboots are not necessary except for kernel updates. Even for those, there is generally no reason not to wait until you are ready for bed.

Microsoft’s patching is astoundingly primitive in almost every way imaginable. Not only is the process not pleasant, if you have any programs that are not from Microsoft, they arent covered by it. Note thatnall of the headache mentioned above was for nothing more than a base OS install.

I’m really amazed that serious professionals can take microsoft seriously.

Sorry about the rant, but my recent experiences freshly reminded me how bad MS-Windows really is.


48 posted on 08/06/2015 9:22:03 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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