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Is Vampire Discrimination a Thing?
Discovery News ^ | 7/14/15 | Benjamin Radford

Posted on 07/16/2015 4:44:30 PM PDT by markomalley

A small study of people who self-identify as vampires were, understandably, reluctant to reveal their blood- and energy-draining proclivities to doctors and psychologists for fear of rejection and being labeled mentally ill.

According to a Reuters story, “Research led by D.J. Williams, director of social work at Idaho State University, indicated that people who identify themselves as ‘real’ vampires – that is, needing others’ blood to gain energy – would not disclose their practices to those in the helping professions and risk reactions like ridicule, disgust and possible diagnosis of a mental illness.”

“Newsweek,” in a short piece headlined “Real Vampires Exist – and They Need Counseling Too,” framed the topic as about “how one self-identifies,” comparing the social stigma of coming out as a vampire with coming out as transgendered.

So do “real vampires” exist? Sure they do: many animals suck blood, including leeches, vampire bats and female mosquitoes. Humans, however, cannot drink blood safely for several reasons including the risk of blood-borne pathogens and iron toxicity: humans, unlike true vampires, have no way of preventing the iron-rich blood from causing a life-threatening condition called hemochromatosis.

Other self-identified vampires claim to drain not blood, but some sort of psychic energy or life-force from others; since these energies have not been proven to exist and are unknown to science, doctors don’t worry about that kind of vampirism.

The study, published in the latest issue of the Canadian journal “Critical Social Work, had a very small sample — 11 people — and there was no attempt to determine whether or not the vampire’s self-reports were accurate. Just because a person claims to be a vampire doesn’t mean he or she is one, of course.

Clinical Vampirism

There are many people who genuinely believe themselves to be werewolves and vampires. Clinical lycanthropy is a recognized medical condition in which a person believes himself or herself to be another animal, typically a wolf or canine.

A German man named Peter Stump (or Stubbe; spellings vary) claimed in 1589 that a belt of wolfskin he owned allowed him to change into a wolf. He said that when he changed form, his teeth and hair would grow and he had a desire for human blood. Stump confessed to killing at least a dozen people while in the form of a wolf; there was no real evidence that he could actually turn into a wolf, of course, and it’s clear he was mentally ill. He was found guilty of murder and decapitated on Halloween of that year.

Though Stump’s case is an extreme example, he’s not alone. In 2011, for example, a 19-year-old Texas man named Lyle Monroe Bensley broke into a woman’s apartment and bit her neck.

According to an ABC News story, “The woman, whose name has not been released, broke free and fled the apartment, speeding to safety in a neighbor’s car early Saturday. When police arrived on the scene, they found Bensley, wearing only boxer shorts, hissing and growling in the parking lot. He quickly scaled two fences before he was captured, yelling all the while that he ‘didn’t want to have to feed on humans.’”

Though the victim of that self-proclaimed vampire escaped with only a scare, another later that year wasn’t as lucky. This time it was a young Florida woman who killed a 16-year-old she’d dated named Jacob Hendershot.

According to a CBS News story, “Stephanie Pistey says she believes she’s part vampire and part werewolf. Florida police say that, in July, Pistey’s friends lured Hendershot to a house, killed him, and then left his body in a storm drain.”

Pistey told a local TV station “I know this is going to be crazy, but I believe that I’m a vampire and part werewolf.”

Pistey, who claimed to drink blood, and whose MySpace handle was VampireBlood1616, said in interviews that “Some people have called me a ‘bavie’ before — a bio-experiment vampire.” Pistey was found mentally incompetent to stand trial.

There are others as well, including Joshua Rudiger, a San Francisco man who claimed to be a 2,000-year-old vampire and who in 1998 slashed the throats of three victims — killing one of them — in an attempt to get their blood.

Researchers Philip Jaffe and Frank DiCataldo, writing about clinical vampirism in the “Bulletin of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law,” note that “Both clinical and forensic psychologists and psychiatrists have described cases that involve acts that are strongly reminiscent of some aspect of the mythical vampire’s behavior…Clinical vampirism is one of the few pathological manifestations that blends myth and reality in dramatic fashion and contains a hodgepodge of nosological [disease classification-related] elements, including schizophrenic, psychopathic and perverse features.”

Self-Identifying as Vampires

People like Stump, Bensley, Pistey and Rudiger are rare, of course, of course. Most self-described vampires are harmless, and psychopaths exist in every community. Vampires are everywhere in fiction and pop culture, and convey elements of power, romance, eroticism and immortality. It’s not surprising that many people identify with vampires and some even claim to be them.

People are drawn to the vampire subculture for the same reasons they are drawn to any subculture: for a sense of community and shared interest. For her book “Piercing the Darkness: Undercover with Vampires Today,” Katherine Ramsland researched vampire subcultures and interviewed many self-professed vampires.

She noted that “A huge part of vampire culture involves role-playing, both official and unofficial. It’s a way to escape, and to have fun.” Some people wear capes or perform arcane rituals; others have vampire fang dental implants. For the vast majority of vampires it’s harmless role-playing with a Gothic twist, not fundamentally different than Civil War re-enactors or “Star Wars” cosplayers one might see at Comic-Con.

The new study’s authors, Williams and Prior, note that “People with real vampire identities, at least those within this sample, are fearful that clinicians will label them as being psychopathological in some way (i.e., delusional, immature, unstable), perhaps wicked, and not competent to perform in typical social roles, such as parenting.”

However, mental health professionals routinely treat patients with a wide variety of illnesses and belief systems. Unless a person’s belief that he or she is a “real” vampire is causing significant disruption in a person’s life — and Williams suggests otherwise, noting that vampires “are successful, ordinary people” — then most psychologists likely wouldn’t be concerned at the belief.

But because some vampiric practices — notably the attempted drinking of human blood — be dangerous, this places a counselor in a difficult position if a patient says he or she does this. Mental health professionals are obligated to report people who may be a danger to themselves or others.

A vampire patient who voluntarily engages in that behavior (and not, for example, out of an addiction or diagnosed compulsion) could be considered a threat and involuntarily committed. Though unlikely, it’s certainly possible, and thus people who claim to engage in vampirism have some basis for concern.

It’s not a matter of the social acceptance of leading a vampire-inspired lifestyle, it’s a question of whether any harm is being done; given the rare-but-real history of violent acts committed by self-identified vampires, it’s a legitimate concern.


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h/t savage

Where is this country when we're even having this discussion?

1 posted on 07/16/2015 4:44:30 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

It’s a sad situation, all those poor vampires constantly getting dragged out into the noonday sun to see if they sparkle, smoke, or do anything else interesting!


2 posted on 07/16/2015 4:48:13 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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Is Vampire Discrimination a Thing?

UHH, No, dumba$$ (author), Vampirism isn’t a thing, unless you’re a small South American Bat.

Are there people involved in bat discrimination? Same on them.

Idiots.


3 posted on 07/16/2015 4:50:00 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: markomalley

Who am I to argue over how one self identified.


4 posted on 07/16/2015 4:53:09 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: markomalley

No. We (America) are being punked here.

If people think Bruce Jenner is now a woman, they’ll believe anything.


5 posted on 07/16/2015 4:55:04 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: markomalley

How bout we just make it legal to kill vampires at will and watch how fast these idiots decide to quit playing make believe.


6 posted on 07/16/2015 4:55:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: markomalley

There is a group over in Philly that has a huge party every year. The main guy is a Libertarian who Ron Paul tried to talk into running for office. In Philly it would be an improvement, and the guy doesn’t hurt anyone. They were profiled in a book called “Not in Kansas Anymore”.


7 posted on 07/16/2015 4:59:28 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: markomalley

8 posted on 07/16/2015 5:02:13 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

9 posted on 07/16/2015 5:07:26 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: BlackAdderess; MeshugeMikey

Ever see how the godless left reacts when they see a cross?


10 posted on 07/16/2015 5:09:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ("Psychopathia Sexualis, I'm in love with a horse that comes from Dallas" - Lenny Bruce (1958))
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If I can’t see them in a mirror then why should I care? ;’)


11 posted on 07/16/2015 5:10:38 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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12 posted on 07/16/2015 5:10:45 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: markomalley

If we are supposed to accept something as ridiculous as vampires— then absolutely pedophilia is soon to be a condition needful of acceptance.

At some point people must demand this foolishness stop.

Truly, the world has gone mad.

If everything is to be accepted...

Then I say Furies are driving everyone mad because there are too many wrong-doers amongst us.

So everybody must play make-believe with me and be good and make all the Furies go away.

My make-believe is just as theirs, isn’t it?

If not...I need to start an all-butt-hurt group to be equal.


13 posted on 07/16/2015 5:12:19 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: rikkir

I was a vampire, back in the 70s. But I got better when this witch turned me into a newt.


14 posted on 07/16/2015 5:14:22 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (I SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE. As long as both chicks are HAWT !!!)
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To: Irenic

Nah, pedophilia is a condition which requires that we rethink our lack of eunuchs.


15 posted on 07/16/2015 5:20:48 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: markomalley

There are needy people who suck your energy. I have felt absolutely drained when with one of them.


16 posted on 07/16/2015 5:21:03 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (www.ouramericanrevival.com)
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To: BlackAdderess
If they smoke send them back indoors.

If they sparkle take off and nuke the nest from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.

17 posted on 07/16/2015 5:21:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: markomalley
"Where is this country when we're even having this discussion?"


18 posted on 07/16/2015 5:21:59 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I would pay to see Blade kill the cast of Twilight.


19 posted on 07/16/2015 5:22:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

;)


20 posted on 07/16/2015 5:22:48 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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