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U.S. Supreme Court lets Oracle press case that Google copied Java in rush to make Android
Mac Daily Newsws ^ | Jun 29, 2015 6:32 AM PDT

Posted on 06/29/2015 3:36:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Edited on 06/29/2015 4:13:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: android; google; java; oracle; scotus

1 posted on 06/29/2015 3:36:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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2 posted on 06/29/2015 3:37:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Wait, whut? I thought Obama preferred Google! He’s got the NSA files on Roberts, how’s this even possible the case went forward!


3 posted on 06/29/2015 3:40:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We are exactly the same as the Democrats !!!")
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To: Swordmaker

Oracle’s position doesn’t really help anyone, including Oracle. Ellison is just being an idiot. I guess Sun’s position will be ignored.


4 posted on 06/29/2015 3:41:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Sun is now Oracle.


5 posted on 06/29/2015 3:44:24 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Swordmaker

:’)


6 posted on 06/29/2015 3:49:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Swordmaker

If I remember right, there are Java Easter eggs distributed throughout Android.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 4:10:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If I remember right, there are Java Easter eggs distributed throughout Android.

Completely Identical code with the comments removed. . . plus easter egg code that does nothing except provide flags that it was written by Oracle.

Similar code was hidden in Apple's Quicktime which included one of Apple's engineer's mother's maiden name and his social security number, resulted in Microsoft settling with Apple in their copyright and patent infringement suit in 1997. . . the suit that people keep claiming was Microsoft bailing Apple out with a $150 million investment, but that preferred restricted stock purchase was actually just one of the factors in the settlement agreement. Forensic Accountants auditing both companies' books years later came to the conclusion that the actual cost to Microsoft for pirating Apple's IT in Microsoft's Video Codex was almost $2 Billion, money that Apple was able to use for R&D to develop the iPod and iPhone.

8 posted on 06/29/2015 4:23:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If I remember right, there are Java Easter eggs distributed throughout Android.

I was using a Rand McNally map of San Francisco once which showed an Alley. . . and it simply did not exist. I called to report the error. . . and was informed they were quite well aware of that non-existent alley and was told they put it there deliberately. It's a deliberate error, I was told.

Rand McNally maps used to include non-existent streets and alleys on their maps as proof that another map maker had infringed their copyrights in their maps. . . On national and world maps there will be a non-existent river, mountain, city or town somewhere. . . and AT&T Yellow and White pages includes non-existent businesses and names/phone numbers for the same purpose. If those streets, alleys, rivers, cities, mountains, businesses, and names or phones numbers appear in someone else's products the publisher of the original has prima facie proof of copyright infringement and the copyright owner could sue and win!

Rand McNally actually wanted people to know these "ringer streets" existed. . . but would not let people know where they all were because the purpose was to discourage counterfeiting of their products! If you found one and called, they'd explained the fakes.

9 posted on 06/29/2015 4:37:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: 5thGenTexan

No, Oracle bought Sun. There is a big difference because there is a huge difference in company culture and strategy. If Oracle didn’t buy Sun this never would have happened. Sun had a certain philosophy about Java. Can Larry Ellison decide he wants to put the genie back in the bottle? That’s why what Sun’s position before Oracle acquired it is important.


10 posted on 06/29/2015 4:57:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: 5thGenTexan

For example: If Ellison somehow bought Linux tomorrow, could he start imposing royalties on users? He’s not supposed to, but that’s kind of what he is doing here.


11 posted on 06/29/2015 5:00:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

That’s what I meant. Someone said Sun owned Java, not Oracle. I was just clarifying that Oracle now owns Sun.


12 posted on 06/29/2015 7:37:26 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Swordmaker

Guess I’m going to have to look into the particulars of this. At first glance, I don’t buy it. However, in the Alice in Wonderland world of software patents, anything is possible.


13 posted on 06/29/2015 9:05:09 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: Swordmaker
Rand McNally maps used to include non-existent streets and alleys on their maps as proof that another map maker had infringed their copyrights in their maps. . .

That's actually pretty common in the map-making world, and is not, by any means unique to Rand McNally.

These days I don't really see the point, since the vast majority of data for street maps is available for free download from public domain sources derived from government information.

14 posted on 06/29/2015 9:08:33 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: zeugma
That's actually pretty common in the map-making world, and is not, by any means unique to Rand McNally

I know, they all do it for the same reason. That's why I included the other types of sources to show it's a common practice.

15 posted on 06/29/2015 9:56:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: zeugma

Rand McNally was just the most commonly infringed copyright and faked of all the map makers.


16 posted on 06/29/2015 9:59:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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