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1 posted on 06/09/2015 2:46:15 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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Don’t want to work? Get a lawyer (who’ll get you a ‘doctor’) and claim “anxiety, carpal, back pain, etc. - all those symptoms that are too hard to medically disprove”.

For somebody over 50 who just don’t want to work out the 16 more years it’s worth giving up a few SSDI checks to the lawyer to get a decade’s worth of payments.

I know that when I used to get those SS statements, the SSDI payment for permanent disability was higher than any other payment.

A few years ago I spent about 4 hours or so researching just exactly what SSDI and SSI are. I found out that SSA manages both, but SSI comes out of the general fund. At that time, SSA and SSI accounted for over one quarter of everything SSA doled out. That was before Obama - I’d guess that’s higher now.


2 posted on 06/09/2015 2:54:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I seem to remember that the Obsms admin was giving disability to anyone who wanted it a while back. If they didn’t get unemployment, they got disability.


3 posted on 06/09/2015 3:06:34 AM PDT by dforest
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I have a relative who got caught in the disability trap. If one wants to ease their way off it, it's almost impossible. Recipients have to prove their disability in order to not lose the disability check, medical, food stamps, free phone etc. The only way to do that is to stay disabled, and that means evermore treatments, dependence, medications, isolation from the productive world.

There should be a way to ease recipients off disability. In the case I'm familiar with, the person probably would've been better off living with respiratory problems and not trying to fix them.

7 posted on 06/09/2015 3:31:56 AM PDT by grania
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I know someone who did time for his fake disability.

I’m pretty sure someone blew the whistle on him, however.


10 posted on 06/09/2015 3:47:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt, provided enough of it can be got and it be medicated with the proper ingredients. If by good fortune a debt be ready at hand, the most is to be made of it. Stretch it and swell it to the utmost the items will bear. Allow as many extra claims as decency will permit. Assume all the debts of your neighbors -— in a word, get as much debt as can be raked and scraped together, and when you have got all you can, “advertise” for more, and have the debt made as big as possible. This object being accomplished, the next will be to make it as perpetual as possible; and the next to that, to get it into as few hands as possible. The more effectually to bring this about, modify the debt, complicate it, divide it, subdivide it, subtract it, postpone it, let there be one-third of two-thirds, and two-thirds of one-third, and two-thirds of two-thirds; let there be 3 percents, and 4 percents, and 6 percents, and present 6 percents, and future 6 percents. To be brief, let the whole be such a mystery that a few only can understand it; and let all possible opportunities and informations fall in the way of these few, to clinch their advantages over the many.

11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks. Here the aid of the former encroachments and all the other precedents and way-paving maneuvers will be called in of course. But, in order to render success the more certain, it will be of special moment to give the most plausible and popular name that can be found to the power that is to be usurped. It may be called, for example, a power for the common safety or the public good, or, “the general welfare.” If the people should not be too much enlightened, the name will have a most imposing effect. It will escape attention that it means, in fact, the same thing with a power to do anything the government pleases “in all cases whatsoever.” To oppose the power may consequently seem to the ignorant, and be called by the artful, opposing the “general welfare,” any may be cried down under that deception.

Rules for changing a limited republican government into an unlimited hereditary one.

http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/FRENEAUbanking.html


12 posted on 06/09/2015 3:55:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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Im disabled, been hospitalized a few times, and collecting
SSDI. All my litigation paperwork/records are V.A.
medical information and data. I met the age and
“quarters” requirements, but was still denied, and had
to sue, to get what I paid for. The denial by the
government was mis-categorized, therefore I won.

I’m not a Ferguson porch sitter.
I started working at 16 years old, and was over 50,
when I began litigation.


13 posted on 06/09/2015 4:26:51 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Honestly, I’m more worried what they pay for people who are eligible. I know of one able-bodied regular on a “radio talk show” who gets the following:
- Subsidized Housing
- In house meals
- Housekeeper (yes, a housekeeper)
- Gov’t funded therapist
- Car service to get to the therapist and other appts.
- Plus, the regular array of medicaid coverage

It’s nuts.


14 posted on 06/09/2015 4:45:16 AM PDT by Wolfie
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A government audit finds that the Social Security Disability Insurance program paid out $16.8 billion in disability benefits over the past decade to about four million people who either were working, made too much money, were in prison, were dead...

Being dead sounds like a pretty big disability. (I do wonder how they cash that check, though.)

16 posted on 06/09/2015 5:22:50 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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None of this changes until the money runs out. When and how is unknown but it will run out. The Soviet Union ran out of money, maybe it will happen like that.


22 posted on 06/09/2015 5:39:06 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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so take the money from the people who made and received the payments and fire them and if there was criminal activity put them in prison. i’ve read stats that 40% of disability if FRAUD... AND same with the IRS... look, a government job from the president on down is nothing but a form of welfare to begin with... they treat themselves like royalty and are SERVANTS of the PUBLIC.... used to be a government job was (and still is) filled by the F students.... THE TAIL IS WAGGING THE DOG THESE DAYS... WASH DC LOOKS LIKE IMPERIAL ROME... and will fall just like it too.


23 posted on 06/09/2015 5:54:36 AM PDT by zzwhale
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Woman on disability rides to Battle at Walmart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vNoR4Yb4Gc


24 posted on 06/09/2015 5:59:43 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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The Democrat leaders have figured out how much money each person in America should have.

It’s just socialism with better accounting.


25 posted on 06/09/2015 6:10:31 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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