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Apple iCult spurns Steve Jobs values: Ex-employee reveals 'toxic culture' at headquarters
international Business Times ^ | April 9, 2015 13:53 BST | By Anthony Cuthbertson

Posted on 04/09/2015 11:48:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: IncPen
You are right. Not only does no one want to work there, nobody wants to buy their products, either.

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21 posted on 04/10/2015 5:12:34 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Swordmaker

Assuming this guy is who he claims to be, his stories could take place at most software — and practically any hardware — company in the Valley.

There’s a lot of competition and pressure out there, kid, especially in this Obanomy. Cowboy up.


22 posted on 04/10/2015 5:22:13 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Swordmaker

I am not a financial advisor and no one should take advice from strangers,.

That said, the July and October options onAAPL are extremely attractive in the $150-160 range


23 posted on 04/10/2015 5:25:11 AM PDT by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: antidisestablishment
Jobs was brilliant, but quite a megalomaniac. He was extremely intolerant of differing opinions and burned through employees like firewood.

Heard likewise from someone who was related to Jobs by marriage - that he was a tyrannical workaholic. Not surprising to me that Apple's corporate culture might reflect Jobs' nature.
24 posted on 04/10/2015 5:35:20 AM PDT by rockvillem
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To: Swordmaker
I would say the anecdotes are hardly unique to Apple - this is life in corporate America circa 2015. If you don't like it, you have to go out and start your own business and "think different."

But a few years of dealing with incompetent suppliers, surly customers, indifferent employees, and rapacious government will no doubt turn you into the exact jerk of a boss you used to hate. :)

25 posted on 04/10/2015 5:39:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Swordmaker

Steve Jobs was the Indispensible Man at Apple.

Their tremendous success was the result of his leadership.

There is no particular reason to think they will be successful without it.

Sure, they will cruise for a while, perhaps quite a while, on the work that has been done by those that came before. But, eventually, their momentum will wind down and they will become a mediocre company.

Right now, the bulk of their efforts are being expended to make absolutely sure no new visionary will be able to penetrate the bureaucracy to save them.

(BTW, there is no way on God’s Green Earth Steve Jobs would have released a wristwatch with an 18 hour battery life.)


26 posted on 04/10/2015 5:44:03 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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To: Swordmaker

You never know what or whom to believe. One time I was about to get a new manager and someone warned me...”Oh, I had her and she was terrible! She was a micromanager who stood at the door of my cubicle and watched me work all of the time... always checking behind me!” Well, as it turns out, she never did that to me. She was fine. The person who told me that needed to be micromanaged.

But that being said, if what this guy says it true, I would never be able to endure it. I would dig ditches before I would put up with this passive aggressive, back stabbing environment.


27 posted on 04/10/2015 5:48:24 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: Swordmaker

My advice is when your personal values and corporate values conflict, you must make one of those career and life changing decisions. Either go their way or yours.

Nothing is forever in the corporate world. You are only worth what you can contribute to the corporation and sometimes not even that. Always maintain your marketable skills knowing the day will come when you WILL part ways with your current employer. The first day on your new job start planning your exit strategy because that day will come sooner or later.

In other words you must have knowledge and skills that some corporation needs if you are to keep working in your field. If you’re not learning and earning, someday you will wake up to find yourself out of a job and without the marketable skills to find a new one. Technology moves fast, so keep up and attain new knowledge in areas that will improve your marketable skills.

Personally, I find that hands on and take charge people always have plenty of job opportunities. Failed managers, administrators, and decision makers are a dime a dozen. OTH, those that are successful, can pick their jobs and salaries. So try to achieve success in all you do. And even if you fail, try again. Most success is built on previous failures. Everybody roots for the underdog (unless he is Al Gore).

That being said, Steve Jobs was an a$$hole who molded a corporate entity that was a personification of his values. Jobs is gone but the corporation lingers on for lack of another Steve Jobs. Whether you agreed or disagreed with Jobs, it was always your decision whether to go or stay.


28 posted on 04/10/2015 5:49:39 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Swordmaker

Ping for later


29 posted on 04/10/2015 5:57:53 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Swordmaker

After seeing CEO Cook toss his Nazi temper fit at Indiana, I am not surprised. Apple sounds like the cult of Scientology.


30 posted on 04/10/2015 6:28:41 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Swordmaker

Barbara Corcoran weeps. Haven’t Apple learned to “shoot the dogs early”?


31 posted on 04/10/2015 6:32:38 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Swordmaker

Did David Miscavige take over for Jobs?


32 posted on 04/10/2015 6:55:48 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Sounds just like Medtronic - or any other major medical device manufacturer for that matter (both the interview process and the corporate culture). Heck, it sounds like almost any large corporation...


33 posted on 04/10/2015 7:03:05 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: Texicanus

I agree with you. I did not work directly for Apple, but I worked at a boutique IP law firm in Houston that did a lot of work for them. Many nights I missed school functions because I was stuck at work until midnight.

After working with Apple employees and inventors for over 4 years, I vowed to NEVER own an Apple product. I’m a Samsung gal. I just could not in good conscience buy anything from them after the way they treated me.

I am fortunate now to work for a very family friendly company.


34 posted on 04/10/2015 8:13:07 AM PDT by bearkat
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To: jurroppi1
Sounds just like Medtronic - or any other major medical device manufacturer for that matter (both the interview process and the corporate culture). Heck, it sounds like almost any large corporation...

It does and a good point about Medtronics. Had a relative that worked for them and my Wife is a client. The one who worked for them bailed and immediately got work elsewhere.

My Wife puts all their solicitations and phone calls on the bottom of the to return list. I would not invest in that company. It is not sustainable to anger both you employees and clients.
35 posted on 04/10/2015 11:27:08 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: easternsky
Sounds like people void of Joy, and a whole lot of other things.

Perfect leftists!

36 posted on 04/10/2015 11:30:26 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Swordmaker

He’s giving Steve Jobs too much credit here, probably because Jobs is dead — basically, the atmosphere he describes is what Steve Jobs built. I don’t doubt any of it, but he’s also a sissy-pants who needs to try working in a real job instead, see how he likes that.


37 posted on 04/10/2015 12:50:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
He was a visionary, and he helped people in his company do some great stuff. I actually respect Jobs — but the news that the company he created is not kind to employees is hardly a shock to me.

Clear, this is a case study of ONE embittered guy who claims he quit, but I bet he was fired, if he ever worked for Apple at all. . . and other Apple employees are calling foul on this guy. Some are claiming his story does not ring true for the position he is claiming he held and the work he claims he was ordered to do: the job descriptions don't agree. . . a product marketing wonk is just not under that kind of pressure. Many others claim that it is/was a wonderful place to work. Sorry, if that doesn't meet your pre-conceived notions of Apple as an employer but that is the way most employees are say it is.

38 posted on 04/10/2015 5:58:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Texicanus
Personally, I find that hands on and take charge people always have plenty of job opportunities. Failed managers, administrators, and decision makers are a dime a dozen. OTH, those that are successful, can pick their jobs and salaries. So try to achieve success in all you do. And even if you fail, try again. Most success is built on previous failures. Everybody roots for the underdog (unless he is Al Gore).

If this guy was ever an Apple employee at all, he lasted two years or so. . . and I just don't believe he quit. i think he either quit under threat of firing or was fired outright. His attitude was far too laissez faire about his work to be successful. He was all about the perks, without the work to earn them.

39 posted on 04/10/2015 6:13:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Sorry. My comment was really focused on Jobs as a man. I respect him for what he did, and I'm not trying to be hard on him. I read the biography of him by Walter Isaacson. Jobs was a complex man with both good and bad in him -- like the rest of us. Interpersonal warmth and understanding was not really Jobs' strongest suit. That's all I meant to say.

I know nothing about Apple and I didn't mean to pass judgment on the corporation. I think Jobs was not always good with people. Perhaps his company does much better.

40 posted on 04/10/2015 6:44:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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