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1 posted on 01/30/2015 7:57:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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idled ships, cheaper fuel... a situation like this could presage a big economic problem. The devil is in the details.


2 posted on 01/30/2015 8:01:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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anyhow the economy doesn’t look so much now to be swooning as to be slowly suffocating.


3 posted on 01/30/2015 8:03:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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World Depression. They can not hide it much longer.


9 posted on 01/30/2015 8:10:43 AM PST by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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Read the link from 2009 embedded in the article. It puts the BDI is a more proper perspective, IMO.

predicting ship supply and commodities demand has a pretty high margin of error, at the same time remembering how sensitive the BDI is to small mismatches due to the inelastic nature of its underlying supply and demand, and you quickly realize that predicting the BDI is a fool's game and also that it is not a reliable forward indicator given that it is a spot rate index in a market where both sides are basically forced to close a deal due to high fixed costs. The BDI is measure of supply/demand mismatch at the moment, and can change drastically on a dime. Its little else beyond this.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cost-of-global-shipping-is-a-lousy-economic-indicator-2009-5#ixzz3QJJqeXpc

11 posted on 01/30/2015 8:13:19 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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Who needs stuff? Just buy apps and consume streaming entertainment.


14 posted on 01/30/2015 8:16:17 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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I find the current Financial markets are akin to Industrial Farming. There are many making big profits but the tools they are using to do so are literally destroying the foundation of the system.

The automated systems used to trade in the financial markets allow some to manipulate prices and pull out huge sums of money in the gaps before the smaller investors get a chance to even make a trade. And thus the market is not based on a broad trading market but instead based on how an elite few have gamed that market. Of course this element has always been around with insider trading and such BUT now the speed and which this system gaming works makes the whole system volatile to the point that you can get a flash crash and literally nobody really knows why it happened and it panics everyone and then the sell orders flourish for no reason except an algorithm gave a positive indicator to sell and it raced through the system and expanded exponentially.

I fear this system flaw may be what finally takes the dollar down. And there is no one in the whole damn circus who knows how to make it stop.

15 posted on 01/30/2015 8:16:26 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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There have been many economic/market events over the years, both good and bad.

What’s this index’s track record in predicting those?


19 posted on 01/30/2015 8:26:49 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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I believe this is a warning that significant reforms are needed for REAL economic recovery. We need a combination of streamlined regulations and a much more business-friendly taxation system to get the world's economy growing again.

Indeed, the revelations about IRS abuse has opened a LOT of eyes in Washington, DC, and we may be on the verge of the biggest reforms in Federal tax laws since the passage of the 16th Amendment itself.

20 posted on 01/30/2015 8:27:42 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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It seems to me there’s been a total disconnect of the stock market from economic reality for a very long time, namely due to essentially unlimited Fed money printing, and as long as the money printing continues unabated, the stock market is likely to stay propped up no matter what happens, at least until the merry-go-round comes to a screeching halt and the whole shebang collapses because the money becomes worthless.

The number of years it will take for that to happen is unknown because the U.S. is by far the richest nation in history to debase its currency, and mostly all we have for examples are poor, non-productive countries and countries with limited populations, limited wealth, and limited production from the past.


24 posted on 01/30/2015 8:45:41 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I think the best indicator of a downturn is an inverted yield curve.

http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/yieldcurve.php


49 posted on 01/30/2015 1:53:46 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Europe is slipping, China has slipped. Oil shipments to North America have declined. Shipments in general to Europe and China have declined. It’s an indicator of a slump but we were the driver in 2008, whereas we’re not in 2015. Does this mean it means nothing domestically? Wouldn’t bet on that. Weird times we’re living in, economically. Far too interconnected for my comfort.


58 posted on 01/30/2015 4:37:47 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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BS. The US economy is in recovery, Greece is booming, China will regain 10% GDP and markets only go straight up. And besides that Apple just had a blow out water and Obama said austerity kills.


61 posted on 01/30/2015 4:45:21 PM PST by jwalsh07
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B T T T ! ! ! ©

63 posted on 01/30/2015 4:50:34 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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