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I Know Apple. And You, Xiaomi, Are No Apple
MacObserver ^ | Jan 16th, 2015 7:20 PM EST | By Bryan Chaffin

Posted on 01/16/2015 11:11:53 PM PST by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker
Remember when Samsung was the new Apple?

Samsung spent about 10 times more on advertising in 2012 or something than Apple did.

Samsung is the worlds biggest advertiser apparently.

I would rather buy something from South Korea than from China or San Fransicko

21 posted on 01/17/2015 10:09:19 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Swordmaker

That is a lot of verbiage griping about a company “trying to be like Apple” when its clearly not being like Apple.


22 posted on 01/17/2015 10:13:24 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Swordmaker

Xiaomi don't play that!

23 posted on 01/17/2015 10:21:02 AM PST by x
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To: GeronL
That is a lot of verbiage griping about a company “trying to be like Apple” when its clearly not being like Apple.

Ah, but Xiaomi is trying to be like Apple. The CEO of Xiaomi has even done keynote addresses wearing jeans and black turtlenecks emulating Steve Jobs. . . when he was showing Xiaomi phones that looked exactly like iPhone models down to the Android skins placed on the phones.

24 posted on 01/17/2015 5:16:15 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: dennisw
You are likely correct. Right now Xiaomi is bringing lots of cash in a way that is not entirely kosher....With Xiaomi not caring about patent laws. It will invest this money in becoming stronger and better to the point they will sell everywhere in the world and obey patent laws.

Lots of cash? Where? They reported only the equivalent $7 million in profit for the entire year of 2014. Where is the "lots of cash," DennisW? You never let those difficult things called facts get in the way of your Apple bashing, do you?

What you are ignoring is that patent infringement is RETROACTIVE and they will reap that if they attempt to sell their products in the rest of the world. The owners of those intellectual properties WILL prevail and will exact their payments retroactively for the sales made in the past. This has happened before and the penalties can be extraordinarily HUGE. Samsung is still fighting one through the European court system that if they lose will cost them EVERY CENT they made on sales in Europe! That's BILLIONS of Euros. . . and that's just on a couple of patents they were found to have infringed.

Operating Guerrilla fashion now gets you no-where if you want to break into legitimacy later. That's like a Porn Star wanting to win an Oscar. It ain't gonna happen. Thailand is a huge enforcer of patent law. . . and the rest of the world is very much in line with IP. . . because they want to have THEIR IP protected too. You really don't know what you are talking about. Keep blithering. It makes you looks so foolish.

25 posted on 01/17/2015 5:29:32 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; dennisw
Or are you just making ignorant remarks to just hear yourself babble?

He's infected with the BabbleFish form of MAPS:

Swordmaker's and Kathy's proposed diagnosis for the new ICD-10 addenda:

90210 iOS Munchausen's Apple-Plexy Syndrome (MAPS), The overwhelming compulsion to post negative, judgmental, aggressive, and false commentary on any website thread related to Apple products wherever found, including phobic reaction to projected Apple user euphoria. First and subsequent encounters.

26 posted on 01/17/2015 5:32:52 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: dennisw; ReignOfError
My words were prophetic. Just give Xiomi a few years. Lenovo too

If your words were prophetic about the HP Touch Pad, where is it? Belly Up. HP dropped it 49 days after they released it. As a prophet, your prophetic abilities are not as good as Xiaomi's profits.

27 posted on 01/17/2015 5:43:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: ReignOfError; RayChuang88
The problem is, absent some really compelling hardware designs, they’re competing in a commodified market with razor-thin margins, and if they want to compete in markets where they’ll have to pay for patent licensing, they’ll have to squeeze profits from somewhere else.

The real problem in the Android market is differentiation. With those razor-thin margins, and having to pay legally required SEP licensing, there isn't much room to differentiate in hardware design or software. In the Android market, where customers are wiling to accept "just good enough" producing a "superior quality" phone is not going to be the differentiator. They have to come up with a gimmick. Xiaomi's was making phones that mimicked Apple's phones in looks and screens. . . if not operations. Their idea was they could sell their phones to people who wanted to look like iPhone owners but who could not afford iPhones.

28 posted on 01/17/2015 5:57:27 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: GeronL
Samsung spent about 10 times more on advertising in 2012 or something than Apple did.

Their advertising budget that year was over $14 billion. . . however, the media purchasing was only about $4.6 billion. The rest was spent on astro-turfing, blog spamming, and trolls. . . including some I think who post anti-Apple junk on FreeRepublic.

29 posted on 01/17/2015 6:03:44 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

They did waste of a lot of money on that


30 posted on 01/17/2015 7:25:59 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Swordmaker

Samsung pays me one million a year to post here. How much does Tim Coooks pay you?


31 posted on 01/17/2015 10:09:58 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

If I was in China and (most of Asia) I would buy Xiomi. CRAppple stuffs too expensives, greedy Cupertino liberals! I doubt CRAppple can block Xiomi sales in places like Burma and Thailand. They will be sold black market anyways....lots of them

Xiomi prolly sell well in nations like Uruguay, Brazil, Bhutan, India. Stupid rich Americans have a distorted view of what the rest of the world wants in a smart-phone. And all that patent BS is not enforced in the third world and second world (Uruguay is Second World nation for example)


32 posted on 01/17/2015 10:18:16 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw; ReignOfError; RayChuang88; ProtectOurFreedom
If I was in China and (most of Asia) I would buy Xiomi. CRAppple stuffs too expensives, greedy Cupertino liberals! I doubt CRAppple can block Xiomi sales in places like Burma and Thailand. They will be sold black market anyways....lots of them.

Xiomi prolly sell well in nations like Uruguay, Brazil, Bhutan, India. Stupid rich Americans have a distorted view of what the rest of the world wants in a smart-phone. And all that patent BS is not enforced in the third world and second world (Uruguay is Second World nation for example)

WAKE UP AND PAY ATTENTION. DENNIS!

Apple is not blocking the sale of Xiaomi's phones. Where is ANYONE Apple is even trying to block Xiaomi. Ericsson/Sony is the prime holder of the patents at issue, but CISCO, Microsoft, Samsung and many other technological companies that hold the PATENTS that Xiaomi has IGNORED are the ones blocking their movement into other markets.

Xiaomi does not sell well on any blackmarket in the nations you mentioned. The black market flows the other way, INTO CHINA and it is iPhones that are being smuggled in. China has a 17% value added tax that must be paid.

As for your statement "If I was in China and (most of Asia) I would buy Xiomi.(sic)" Of course you would. You take every opportunity to bash Apple, and frankly, by extension, American business. As for your comment in another thread about Samsung paying you "a million dollars a year", I would not be surprised at all that you were a paid agent for a foreign agent, and that that was one of the few times you have been truthful in these threads.

If you have such a distorted view of America and Americans, why don't you move somewhere else and do what YOU do best. . . support non-American companies at all cost against America. . . must be that million dollar payment. Move to South Korea.

33 posted on 01/18/2015 12:43:03 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: GeronL
They did waste of a lot of money on that

They still are. Their 2014 advertising budget is not much smaller. . . and their entire profit for 2014 was only the equivalent of $25 billion in US dollars. An advertising budget that is 56% of your profit is, shall we say profligate?

34 posted on 01/18/2015 12:50:36 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

very

but I guess it keeps a lot of South Koreans employed since Samsung is about 20% of their GDP


35 posted on 01/18/2015 1:43:41 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Swordmaker

Apple never makes things. They assemble and pimp them to its loyal dupes. Apple is a marketing, advertising and distribution machine

Samsung makes stuff


36 posted on 01/18/2015 4:27:02 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw; RayChuang88; ReignOfError; ProtectOurFreedom
Apple never makes things. They assemble and pimp them to its loyal dupes. Apple is a marketing, advertising and distribution machine
Samsung makes stuff

You ARE delusional. . . and now an obvious and self-admitted paid agent provocateur, a troll, for the KOREAN economy against AMERICAN economy interests.

37 posted on 01/18/2015 9:18:52 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

I’ve got many friends and acquaintances in engineering and R&D at Apple. Wait’ll I tell them they aren’t doing anything. They’ll be surprised to hear that.


38 posted on 01/18/2015 9:24:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Where is the hands on stuff such as actually making a chip or an LCD screen? Where is it dooooood???

Apple does none of this while Samsung does, so Sammy has my respect. They will get my money before some alleged Americans hucksters at Apple do. Anyway CRAplle brings in boatloads of foreign HB1 tech workers same as the other Silicon Valley companies. CRApple’s loyalty to American workers and American labor is zilch

I suppose some of the clowns on top are Americans at Apple


39 posted on 01/18/2015 9:52:30 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

I already told you Samsung pays me one million a year. How much does Apple pay you???


40 posted on 01/18/2015 9:53:37 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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