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Vanity: Questions for concealed or open carriers
Tahoe3002

Posted on 11/29/2014 4:58:31 AM PST by Tahoe3002

In light of the Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin cases, I am seeking FReeper opinions on how concealed, or open, carriers view their roles and responsibilities. Your responses are greatly appreciated.


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So here are my questions: 1 Depending on law in your state: do you open or concealed carry? 2 Would you open carry if state law permitted it? 3 Would you step in and defend someone you do NOT know if they were involved in a one-on-one altercation? 4 Would you step in and defend someone you do NOT know if they were involved in a many-on-one altercation? 5 Would you step in to protect property from theft or arson? 6 Are you now, or formerly, LEO or military? 7 Do you have formal self defense training, e.g., Thunder Ranch or similar? 8 Do you have or have access to legal representation "just in case"? (I am not a lawyer, thankfully) Thanks for sharing your opinions. I am assuming all carriers will protect themselves, family and family property.
1 posted on 11/29/2014 4:58:31 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: Tahoe3002

What is this going to be used for? Sounds too much like a DOJ survey.


2 posted on 11/29/2014 5:03:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tahoe3002

Too much grey area in your questions about “stepping in” so I will skip those questions.
I carry daily, concealed. My state allows for open carry already and I choose not to for the sake of “element of surprise” and a secondary that I don’t have eyes in the back of my head (for those eyeballing my piece). I am former military and trained well.
I think as a carrying citizen it’s not up to me to play cop. If a couple guys are trading knuckles, I’ll call it in and let the LEO’s sort it out and go about my business.
I carry so I can increase my chances of getting home every night and so I can protect those around me (i.e., my friends and loved ones). I do not carry to protect society as a whole. Those people need to get with the program and get themselves a gun and concealed carry.


3 posted on 11/29/2014 5:05:42 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Tahoe3002

Simple answer of three words: me and mine.


4 posted on 11/29/2014 5:08:23 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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limited concealed carry in most counties here in NY.

I have no idea what I would do if I am in a situation. as the last poster mentioned it sounds like a DOJ survey.


5 posted on 11/29/2014 5:08:38 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: driftdiver

I am just interested in the views of other FReepers. I have my own long formed views and plans to be implemented if ever in any related situations.

I very rarely post or reply, so I can understand your reluctance to participate. Thank you.

Oh, and my questions also apply to anyone who may previously lost their guns in a boating accident.


6 posted on 11/29/2014 5:09:23 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: Tahoe3002

1) concealed
2) no
3) maybe it would depend on the circumstances
4)probably but it still would depend on the circumstances
5) depends
6) ex military
7) no
8) can afford a lawyer if necessary


7 posted on 11/29/2014 5:12:20 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: driftdiver

Concealed means just that. I don’t tell anyone about it.

I have a Georgia Weapons Carry Permit and that is about all I’ll say about it. Even for weapons I may or may not have in my truck, my state does not require me to ‘alert’ an officer I have a weapon in the car. It may come up in questioning if the officer is reasonable, but it is not a requirement to self-identify.


8 posted on 11/29/2014 5:12:47 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Tahoe3002
your questions are loaded with deception. I carry a gun every day, am a retired AB Ranger, carry a gun to work and know the law and will abide by the law and will not play stupid ass word games with morons.

The fact is that I know the laws better than you do and I do not have time to argue with you or educate your ignorant ass. Take your games back under your rock, Your busted.

9 posted on 11/29/2014 5:17:32 AM PST by oldenuff2no (Retired military dog handler)
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Boating accident? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

I’ll state my sentiments exactly as did Ghost. Too much nebulous information being sought that should only required a normal amount of common sense to figure out without having to do a survey. Which brings me back to my opening question.


10 posted on 11/29/2014 5:18:16 AM PST by mazda77
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To: driftdiver
Loose lips sink ships.
11 posted on 11/29/2014 5:20:54 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Tahoe3002

Since I am female, I carry concealed (which is all that is allowed in my state at the moment-—the new administration has vowed to go open carry.)

As to use, me and mine...

I have one close friend who recently had to use. An unleashed dog attacked a neighbor lady and her dog as they stood across the street chatting with him.

Once the weapon is fired, you must call the police, which my friend did. The police were polite and appreciative of my friend’s “service”. They shared how their experiences with CHL holders has been nothing but positive, and they support it completely.

The neighbors were not surprised (most of them carry as well) and very positive. Even the owner of the dog was okay after he saw the injuries his animal inflicted.

One more thing, I believe if you have your CHL, and do not always carry, you are doing a disservice to your family who could need you at any time.


12 posted on 11/29/2014 5:22:04 AM PST by Mrs.Z
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1. Concealed
2. No
3. No
4. Maybe
5. Theft, no. Arson, maybe
6. Military
7. Yes
8. Yes

13 posted on 11/29/2014 5:23:09 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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1. Concealed 2. No 3. Depends 4. See: #3 5. See: #3 6. Yes 7.Yes 8. Yes. P.S., I don’t look for trouble, I look for threats.


14 posted on 11/29/2014 5:24:21 AM PST by Ancient Man
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To: Tahoe3002

I do not answer lawyers questions unless sworn in and on the stand.

Sorry


15 posted on 11/29/2014 5:26:14 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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--will opine on the "boating accident" cliche'-

-if it comes to that, the cops will probably do like they presumably do in England if you use that excuse as to where your firearms are--put you in jail until you are ready to tell them where they really are---

16 posted on 11/29/2014 5:30:00 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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Seems suspicious and awkward

We know bam bam has agents on these boards.


17 posted on 11/29/2014 5:30:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tahoe3002

I have bad hips. If you carry 1, carry another on the other side, to balance it.


18 posted on 11/29/2014 5:30:17 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Vaquero
limited concealed carry in most counties here in NY.

That is not true. Of the 62 counties in NY, all but about 15 are "shall issue" with respect to concealed carry permits.

I have no idea what I would do if I am in a situation.

This is a big mistake. A responisble gun owner should always have a plan for the various defense situations that might become a reality. I constantly play out "what if" scenerios in my mind, just in case.

as the last poster mentioned it sounds like a DOJ survey.

Agreed.

19 posted on 11/29/2014 5:30:36 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Tahoe3002

Gentle suggestions...

1. You should answer your own questions first.
2. You should explain why you are asking folks to reveal this info in an open, public forum.
3. By that point, if you still haven’t figured out why the entire exercise is not a good idea, you should brace yourself for some harsh replies.

Good Luck!! Choose Wisely!!


20 posted on 11/29/2014 5:31:05 AM PST by jaydee770
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