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At Florida State, Football Clouds Justice
New York Times ^ | 10-10-14 | Mike McIntire and Walt Bogdanichoct

Posted on 10/10/2014 7:42:10 PM PDT by FlJoePa

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — The 911 call could not have sounded more urgent: A man was beating a woman holding a baby outside their apartment as she tried to leave.

“You just need to get someone out here right away because it is really bad,” the caller said, adding that the man was “punching” the mother and “grabbing the little baby around the arm.”

By the time the police arrived shortly after 3 a.m. one day last January, the couple were back inside. The 19-year-old woman acknowledged that she and her boyfriend had argued, and that he had not wanted her to leave. But she insisted nothing physical had occurred.

Officers responding to a domestic violence call have a legal duty to investigate thoroughly, seek written statements from witnesses and from the victim, instruct the victim on how to seek help and, finally, forward their report to the local domestic abuse crisis center. But, according to their brief report on the episode, the officers did none of that.

They did, however, find the case significant enough to notify their sergeant — “due to the fact that it was an F.S.U. football player,” the report said. The sergeant, a Florida State University sports fan, signed off on it and the complaint was filed away as “unfounded.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: football; ncaa
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Long, detailed, brutal article.
1 posted on 10/10/2014 7:42:10 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Meanwhile UF wastes no time suspending Treon Harris, although we sure could use him.


2 posted on 10/10/2014 7:46:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: FlJoePa

I remember a Texas cheerleader who said she was raped by a football player and was punished for not cheering for him.


3 posted on 10/10/2014 7:49:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: FlJoePa

FSU doesn’t have anything on auburn.


4 posted on 10/10/2014 7:54:40 PM PDT by boycott
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To: FlJoePa

I remember that OJ Simpson raped a coed at USC, and USC paid her $69K to not press charges, while OJ was in his Heisman year.


5 posted on 10/10/2014 7:57:51 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Jim Brown raped several women while he was a pro but always paid them off. At least that is what I heard.


6 posted on 10/10/2014 8:04:16 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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To: FlJoePa

Football State University...


7 posted on 10/10/2014 8:04:50 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: dfwgator

I think it would have been wiser to let the investigation take place instead of presume guilt. Plenty of time to suspend someone charged with a felony, if it happens. Once Harris’ attorney hit the airwaves with evidence exonerating his client the accuser recanted. This title IX presumption of guilt crap is flat unAmerican.


8 posted on 10/10/2014 10:13:31 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: FlJoePa

Remember, you can’t spell felon without Nole.


9 posted on 10/10/2014 10:40:24 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: FlJoePa

Next thing you know they’ll be screwing young boys in the shower and having the head coach cover it up.


10 posted on 10/10/2014 10:57:05 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Free Seafood University.


11 posted on 10/10/2014 11:35:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: Gunslingr3

I think Muschamp told her to do it. Anything to protect his Golden Boy, Driskel.


12 posted on 10/10/2014 11:36:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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I’m looking forward to Driskel and Muschamp being gone.


13 posted on 10/11/2014 4:05:13 AM PDT by EEGator
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I’m looking forward to Driskel and Muschamp being gone.

I agree. That will be a happy day for Gator fans

14 posted on 10/11/2014 4:21:59 AM PDT by johncatl (...governs least, governs best.)
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To: Gunslingr3

“I think it would have been wiser to let the investigation take place instead of presume guilt. Plenty of time to suspend someone charged with a felony, if it happens. Once Harris’ attorney hit the airwaves with evidence exonerating his client the accuser recanted. This title IX presumption of guilt crap is flat unAmerican.”

In the UK the accuser’s and accused’s name are kept confidential. Yet another thing the American justice system has screwed up. The accused’s name gets splashed all over the media, while the accused sits back and watches her lawyers try the case in the court of public opinion as part of their pre-civil claim strategy. (Meanwhile, in the Winston case, few in the media are reporting that the SA’s released documents show she refused to identify Winston to police although her deleted facebook and twitter accounts showed she knew him, changed her story 3 times when each version was belied by the physical evidence, stayed in class with him despite the school victim advocates’ offer to move her, refused to cooperate with any Title IX investigation, and didn’t release her claim though her aunt’s lawyer friend until 8 months later when the previously unknown freshman had become the FSU QB and was suddenly the front runner for the Heisman and the #1 draft pick).

It’s the new witch hunt: 400 years ago, a man could accuse a woman of witchcraft, and she could either prove her innocence by drowning, or float and be burned at the stake— a no-win situation for the accused. Publicly accuse a man of sexual assault, and his reputation is ruined regardless how it turns out. Liberals love it because they get to harp about the victimization of women.


15 posted on 10/11/2014 4:59:29 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: FlJoePa

What about Ohio State? I used to tease an grad friend that Ohio State players were on a work release program so the university could field a team.

The local teams have black marks against them.
NC State had a premier basketball player that could barely write, scored 400 on the SAT, got caught stealing and was finally let go. That was back in the Valvano era.
UNC is embroiled in controversy right now over a Black Studies course that was instituted to give passing grades to athletes. And has been for years. A tutor writing papers for same.

The only program I support is Duke.
AFAIK they still have scholastic standards for athletics.
Please no one burst my bubble.


16 posted on 10/11/2014 6:18:18 AM PDT by Vinnie
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Absolutely brutal. Other sources picked up on this article and added more details

The New York Times reviewed: the internal records of the FSU police department, including internal emails; communications between the FSU police and the Tallahassee Police Department; communications between the FSU police department and FSU's administration and the FSU athletic department; and dates that events happened or didn't happen. The New York Times also conducted interviews.

A small taste of what we are told:p>


17 posted on 10/11/2014 7:48:31 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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. . . and the police did not interview Winston's roommates, the key witnesses, until the day after files on the incident were turned over to the reporter. That was more than seven months after the incident.

By that time, Winston's attorney had prepared affidavits for each roommate to sign, describing what happened the night of the incident. The affidavits were almost identical. The answers the roommates gave to the police when finally questioned were almost identical.

. . . and, when asked police about his affidavit, one of the roommates said that part of the affidavit was not true. The part that wasn't true was scarcely important, but the affidavit prepared for the roommate by Winston's attorney contained 'facts' that weren't true.

18 posted on 10/11/2014 8:06:00 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Facepalm. My comments were specific to Jameis Winston and the allegation that he committed sexual assault. I deserve a slap for not mentioning that fact.

The NYT article addresses many more incidents in which FSU football players are given preferential treatment by the police.

19 posted on 10/11/2014 8:11:03 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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It’s pretty alarming stuff. New PSU Pres Barron has some explaining to do as well. His hire (as well as the new AD hire) are just two more massive failures on the part of the ship of fools currently running PSU.


20 posted on 10/11/2014 8:18:01 AM PDT by FlJoePa
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