Posted on 08/11/2014 3:25:19 PM PDT by Morgana
you are obviously unaware of the large genre of women’s books categorizee as “romance novels”. they have no serious literary value at all. they are simply ground out as porn for women.
“He took her”... that is some vague porn
throbbing member, blah blah, you get the idea, i’m not gonna go down the list or go verbatim here. just pick up a barbara cartland anything and you’ll see. imworked in a library in high school as a page and part of the duties was putting books back on the shelves, i know all these books are just smut books. no redeeming literary value at all. the stories are just mechanisms for verbal porn. just as the stories in film porn is just a mechanism to get to the next porn scene.
yes but at least with words there is no real people
I would treat the authors the same way as I would treat porn stars; total avoidance
Would you want your daughter or son to be a porn star, ogled and masturbated over by strangers? Why would you want somebody else’s daughter or son used in that way?
you are rationalizing.
the people on the cover of those books are often real models. sergio is a real guy and he appeared on a lot of romance book covers.
regardless, they don’t have to be real. if one pictures another person in their mind and pictures doing it with them while they read the words and pleasure themselves, that’s an affair. they’ve just fantasized having sex with that person.
don’t rationalize away the truth.
I was talking about the other end
fingers on a typewriter and real people having sex (sharing STD’s) on camera are not the same thing.
you do know that porn movies have story writers and scriptwriters that do screenplays. a script for a porn movie is porn.
all these women’s books are is just for porn purposes, there’s no other reason they exist. they have zero value as literature.
one is visual, one is words and in the theater of the mind. both are fantasy and both are porn.
I firmly believe that Satan’s second best trick after getting people to think he doesn’t exist was getting them to call that stuff “adult entertainment”. (My personal nomination for third is bottle service.)
books only require an author, not actors because they aren’t a play or a film. that doesn’t mean what the author wrote isn’t porn.
the films require someone to write them and those writers are no different than the authors writing porn for women.
just consider that the porn books for women are just porn scripts not just yet made into movies. same damn stuff. fifty shades of grey the book, is porn for women. make it a movie and it’s visual porn.
thinmk his second greatest trick is teaching people to rationalize their sinful behaviors away, whatever those particular behaviors may be.
I never said it wasn’t porn
one is real people doing real things on camera, the other is words on paper
yes, you are right.
and yes, a person who writes words isn’t the same as an actor who acts them out. but i would reply that think that is a captain obvious statement and if it’s not in the context i took it to mean, originally, it adds nothing to the conversaton we’re having here. because they are writing porn. regrdless if it stays on paper or if someone turns it into a movie.
as you agree the book writers are writing porn, in a nutshell your statement is “porn writers are not the same as porn actors” - but everybody already knows that.
“sergio is a real guy and he appeared on a lot of romance book covers.”
Sergio or Fabio?
MST3K did a take on Fabio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=matItkfzqAA
i did mean fabio. :-) i was trying to wrack my brain on that b/c i don’t recall any other model than him.
What about twilight novels. They seemed like angst porn...
I could go with adjusting my list for that, definitely.
Porn may be mostly created by men....I could go even further and say its disproportionately made by Jews and distributed by Italians
But now folks make porn at home and sell it on the internet....the San Fernando Valley model has been eclipsed by the internet
Gone the way of Blockbuster ....now anyone can look on the computer or hook their TV via HDMI and stream porn from their phone
There have always been women making porn from Candida Royalle and Suze Randall to Naughty Allie today
Who is cheating or not is not dependent on who’s making it.
I’m almost 57 and have enjoyed many women before my rib and never knew one who wasn’t at least curious about porn and some who requested it but did so as a couple....not as a substitute where a married man might preferring that to his wife.....which is bizarre to me but......understanding the nuance or complications of sexual relations between men and women is not something that will ever be mastered
Hence....unless the man dumps his wife for porn I disagree with the premise even though I’m ambivalent about porn and the impact in general....ambivalent in the dictionary sense.....a word of emotion usually misunderstood
For instance
Wife loses interest in sex....it happens.
Man has stronger interest in adventurous sex....I mean some folks...likely on this very forum consider oral sex verboten...a sin.
Wife quits taking care of herself.....it happens.... porn girl is younger and fitter.....this can sequence to cheating but at what point does wife bear responsibility for having a fat apron?
Man only has porn and likely will never really have a woman.... erotic westerns.....same instrument really....doesn’t work for visual men versus less visual girls
Those are just off the top of my head..... complications standing in the way of broad firm edicts like this title.
I do think the more public the porn...its a bad cultural indicator
And I think women in relationships view porn as competition....and that can be at times.
I think women like porn too....and the ones I have known prefer hard porn more than fuzzy.....don’t ask me why....fantasizing about something they wouldn’t do themselves....the rougher non romantic stuff....sorta submissive......or maybe surrendering control is more descriptive.......which is why so many women swooned over 50 shades....I did not read it...lol.....its a chick book like a Longhorn erotic WESTERN
I don’t think Playboy is porn....in fact its become just another men’s magazine gone soft and run by fembots and faggots where Lisa Lampanelli is lol...edgy
I think there is more than enough porn already.....please
But if a couple wants to watch it at home and get stimulated its not my business
I think lonely women who use toys and watch porn or read the afore mentioned throbbing westerns are just fine if that is all they can get in their sex and romance life
Adults need sex....it is the closest to pure intimacy between a man and woman possible and is the cement of a strong marriage....normally
I’ve been faithful(not my strong suit prior to marriage) to the mother of my 5 kids for 20 years and she turns 50 in two weeks
I would wish that for everyone.....you can’t beat it
But some folks don’t have that and if all they have are video or literary fantasies
I’m not gonna judge them
And normally I have no problem judging folks....but not over this except is problem cases I already elucidated
I think women in porn get damaged.....but they usually went in with issues already
The men....not so much....some but not most
There was actually a documentary on this recently....still on Comcast
Meanwhile horrors go on in Iraq which truly do matter but I couldn’t resist your salacious thread...
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