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Why was the Zollverein Coal Mine, in Germany NOT bombed by the Allies during WWII?
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Posted on 08/10/2014 12:50:30 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com

I have lived near by, for the last 2 weeks:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zollverein_Coal_Mine_Industrial_Complex

This is an extraordinary museum, that you need to visit, one of the best in Europe, IMHO.

The Zollverein Coal Mine Industrial Complex (German Zeche Zollverein) is a large former industrial site in the city of Essen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.

Zollverein survived the Second World War with only minor damages and by 1953 again placed on top of all German mines with an output of 2.4 million tons.

Why was this extraordinary place not bombed out out of existence during WW2?

From coal to coke to pig iron to steel to ball bearings to tanks and planes, this was the starting point of the German WW2 war machine.

Everything else around it was bombed into the stone age.

So why was it not destroyed by Allied bombing?

And here are my theories:

1) The Allies wanted the access to the coal there, after the defeat of Germany, as reparations. 2) The Allies did not want a "Failed state" in Germany and understood that this place was needed to re-build Germany and prevent further German aggression. 3) There is really no sense in bombing a mine. You cant destroy coal in the ground with bombing. It was more effective to destroy assembling facilities and the people that worked there. 4) From coal to a finished tank or gun, the process took to long to have any impact on the immediate war effort. In other words, if you took out the coal factory, it would take months or even years to impact the Allies war effort.

Your comments or insights are greatly appreciated. on this matter.

"Long live our sacred Germany!"

Colonel Claus, Count Schenk von Stauffenberg


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: germany; worldwareleven; worldwarii; wwii
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I am interested on your thoughts on this.

To the smartest people in the world, here on FR.

1 posted on 08/10/2014 12:50:30 PM PDT by not2be4gotten.com
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To: not2be4gotten.com

It’s rather hard to bomb a mine.


2 posted on 08/10/2014 12:52:40 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Could be because there were more critical targets.


3 posted on 08/10/2014 12:52:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com
Your reasoning is sound.

It's amazes me that there are people in this country who are STILL mesmerized by Hitler and those years (1933-44).
1933: 81 years ago.

4 posted on 08/10/2014 12:55:25 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: not2be4gotten.com

I lay no claim to being overly smart, but perhaps it had to do with the resultant mine fire that could burn for years?

Maybe a global warming skeptic warned them about that. /s


5 posted on 08/10/2014 12:55:38 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (I don't have a soul, I'm a soul that has a body. -- Unknown)
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To: Hugin

When you bomb coal, you are doing the miners’ job for them.

Either your explosives or theirs; which makes more sense?


6 posted on 08/10/2014 12:56:06 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

It makes no tactical sense.

If you bomb the railroads and bridges used to transport the coal and the power plants that use the coal it’s not going anywhere.


7 posted on 08/10/2014 12:56:16 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Someone didn’t want it bombed.


8 posted on 08/10/2014 12:59:30 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: not2be4gotten.com

destroying production plants for equipment means that you stop or delay production. Destroying the refining facilities for oil stops gas and diesel production. Destroying the steel mills stops steel production.

Thus more “bang for bomb” in destroying them than trying to hit the mine shaft heads or bombing the oil wells.


9 posted on 08/10/2014 1:01:48 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Bombing strategy changed several times during the war. Sometimes it changed between one raid and the next. They never, for example, targeted power plants. They only did one bombing on a dam, despite the tremendous potential for secondary destruction. They went to area bombing because a study showed that only a few bombs got within five miles of their intended target. How would one bomb a mine? It’s already a hole in the ground.


10 posted on 08/10/2014 1:02:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: John Valentine

Isn’t a mine just a giant bomb shelter?


11 posted on 08/10/2014 1:04:26 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The Rockefellers?


12 posted on 08/10/2014 1:05:19 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

Follow the money...


13 posted on 08/10/2014 1:06:58 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Was there any art stored there?


14 posted on 08/10/2014 1:11:33 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

You’re an idiot!

It was obviously owned by the Bushes.


15 posted on 08/10/2014 1:13:30 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Part of Joe Kennedy’s investments...


16 posted on 08/10/2014 1:15:19 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Forgot to add the (Prescott) Bushes...


17 posted on 08/10/2014 1:17:06 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Who worked the mine?


18 posted on 08/10/2014 1:20:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ernie Ford.


19 posted on 08/10/2014 1:27:59 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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FReepathon day 40.

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20 posted on 08/10/2014 1:30:03 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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