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Judge rules Ten Commandments monument must go (Bloomfield, New Mexico)
Associated Press ^ | Aug 8, 2014 10:19 AM EDT

Posted on 08/08/2014 8:10:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A federal judge says a New Mexico city must remove a monument inscribed with the Ten Commandments from the lawn in front of Bloomfield City Hall.

The Daily Times reports that Senior U.S. District Judge James A. Parker issued a ruling Thursday in a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union, saying the monument constitutes government speech and has the “principal effect of endorsing religion.” …

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TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; firstamendment; newmexico; tencommandments
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No; it does not. Besides, only Congress is prohibited from “respect(ing) an establishment of religion” per the First Amendment, and that is via the process of making law. This judge ought to be disbarred for violating the Free Exercise Clause.
1 posted on 08/08/2014 8:10:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Tell the judge to shove it up his smelly Obamahole.

Really.

Where does this dork live?

Watch him, hound him, make his life a living hell.

It’s long past time we give back to liberals what they’ve been giving to us.

Now, Bloonmfielders, go to it.

Make this man regret he didn’t go into a useful profession.


2 posted on 08/08/2014 8:12:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai

Tell the judge to bring his forklift and remove it himself.


3 posted on 08/08/2014 8:13:12 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Olog-hai

oh, not this crap again.

But, we’ll see where this goes in court.

A few years ago, the Supreme Court ruled on 10 Commandment monuments in a pair of cases.

In one case, they agreed that 10 Commandments had to be removed from a Kentucky courthouse. In the other, they ruled that the 10 Commandments were allowed to stay on the Texas Capitol grounds.

So, the court precedents in this area are muddled. We’ll see.


4 posted on 08/08/2014 8:13:16 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Olog-hai
Will be replaced by the Atheist monument.

Nothing.

5 posted on 08/08/2014 8:13:57 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Olog-hai

Van Orden v. Perry, 545 U.S. 677 (2005).


6 posted on 08/08/2014 8:16:02 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yup, a federal judge once more ruling in favor of the American Communist Litigation Union.


7 posted on 08/08/2014 8:16:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Mechanicos
Van Orden v. Perry

Absolutely! Any judge that knowingly violates something so patently obvious as this should be removed from the bench with prejudice.

8 posted on 08/08/2014 8:18:36 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The 10 Commandments are prominantly displayed in the Supreme Court Building in Washington, DC. In full view of the Justices as they sit on the bench hearin orals.

Iirc the crux of the SCOTUS rulings have been that it’s ok to display the Commandments in a secular/historical context, as a representation of historical cultural law. It’s when they’re put up and endorsed from a religious perspective that it’s a problem.

It ticks me off to no end that we have to be so careful and lawerly over things like this. Madison’s great line (”de minimus non cureat lex” I think it was) very much applies, IMHO.


9 posted on 08/08/2014 8:21:30 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Olog-hai

Great opportunity for Susana Martinez to teach Americans a valuable civics lesson by refusing to obey the orders and reminding folks that Federal judges have no jurisdiction over the states on religious matters.


10 posted on 08/08/2014 8:25:13 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Olog-hai
big friday quiz

on which Federal building in Washington D.C. does this statue of moses Holding The TEN COMMANDMENTS exist??


11 posted on 08/08/2014 8:28:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Olog-hai

For 2,000+ years in any civilized society - those commandments have been the basis for the law - as they are in the US today:

I am the Lord thy God, ... Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images.

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long.

Thou shalt not kill.

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Thou shalt not steal.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house.


For the atheists, one could add a caveat “Our laws are based on this wisdom, which is irrefutable.”

Ungrateful, ignorant slobs who have no respect for religious persons and want to impose their lack of spirituality and decency on others. Ironic ain’t it?


12 posted on 08/08/2014 8:30:56 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: tanknetter

When you get right down to it, we would not have to be so lawerly and careful, if liberals weren’t filing lawsuits over these issues time and time again.

If liberals would just let it be, we wouldn’t have these discussions. Liberals should learn that there is no constitutional right NOT to be offended by something.

Liberals can hardly claim that we are some sort of theocracy, based on the display of a 10 Commandments monument. It all comes down to them being offended on some level by that display. Not due to the laws or legal actions of our government somehow acting based on religious faith.


13 posted on 08/08/2014 8:32:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Olog-hai

Tell the judge if they remove the Law of God, then there is no law and he/she/it is out of a job.


14 posted on 08/08/2014 8:33:12 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: MeshugeMikey

The Supreme Court:) LOL!!!!!


15 posted on 08/08/2014 8:33:48 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: AU72

The state religion is atheism


16 posted on 08/08/2014 8:33:49 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: Olog-hai

Time to tell a federal judge to pound sand. Sooner or later someone will. Maybe Bloomfield should start a trend.


17 posted on 08/08/2014 8:38:56 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Olog-hai

Parker was nominated to the United States District Court for the District of New Mexico by President Ronald Reagan on July 10, 1987.


18 posted on 08/08/2014 8:38:59 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: Olog-hai

NM has gone all California on us. Hope TEXAS stalls the eastward advance.


19 posted on 08/08/2014 8:41:53 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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"has the “principal effect of endorsing religion.” …"

... and the forced removal has the principal effect of endorsing atheism, which is itself a religion!

20 posted on 08/08/2014 8:48:07 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ("Your apathy is their power." - Sarah Palin Jul 19, 2014)
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