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1 posted on 04/17/2014 1:59:44 PM PDT by Morgana
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2 posted on 04/17/2014 2:07:07 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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Murder


3 posted on 04/17/2014 2:08:51 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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No reason to try to help. Their odds are too low for survival. Better to save those funds and resources for important and life-improving things like scalp massages for political leaders and extra care rationed out based on race statistics.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 2:10:46 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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“The coroner ruled that the baby died from natural causes and that the hospital’s lack of care “did not affect the outcome.”

This is the kind of statement I would have previously expected to hear from the USSR, or China.

I can't imagine the pain this woman went through watching this happen, helplessly. Twenty-two weeks is right on the cusp of possible survival, and maybe there wasn't a chance, but it's hard to know for sure - and it's sometimes hard to know dates for sure. This kind of ‘policy-driven’ medical decision making takes empathy and humanity out of medicine.

I wonder, if this child had been born to the Royal family, what would have been done?

6 posted on 04/17/2014 2:20:08 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Let me guess, their new policy will be for the attending physician to throw newborns out the window.


7 posted on 04/17/2014 2:23:19 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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My son was born premature in 1979 - he weighed 4 pounds and spent 60 days in an incubator after his underdeveloped lungs caused an oxygen insult to his brain resulting in cerebral palsy. He wears hearing aids, can't drive a car, but has traveled to Europe and Australia. He also has a master's degree and an excellent career.
The Brits might have tossed him in the dumpster.
8 posted on 04/17/2014 2:28:42 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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The survival rate for a 23 week baby is just 17%. It doesn't go above 50% until after 25 weeks. This baby was 22 weeks.
10 posted on 04/17/2014 2:42:02 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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This attitude reminds me of the last time a relative of mine was in the Intensive Care Unit. Most of the Docs and staff had decided that the person had lived long enough, and that his time was up, and he should just be given comfort care.

No one was willing to go all out to help him, and in fact “mistakes” kept happening which made it even harder for him to fight successfully.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 2:50:24 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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A baby girl born prematurely at a UK hospital in 2012 barely escaped death after doctors discovered that she weighed just enough to be considered “viable” according to their standards of infant care, not realizing that it was a pair of scissors left accidentally on the scale that bumped up the baby’s weight to their acceptable standard.

Accident? Who doesn't notice setting a baby down on a pair of scissors? More likely a compassionate God-fearing nurse slipped the most convenient small object she could onto that scale without anyone noticing.

Like the Hebrew midwives who saved the baby boys by telling pharaobama that the Hebrew woman delivered more quickly than the Egyptians, before they could get to them.

12 posted on 04/17/2014 2:54:53 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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Having actually worked in a NICU....we had basic "rules", that under 25 weeks or less than 450 grams we were not going to do CPR. That said...I did some now and again depending on the situations.

That was quite a few years ago...I think the standard weeks have gone down a couple...not sure about weight.

Back then the outcomes were not good for 23-24 weeker's....

My wife and I had a 22 week baby and I wouldn't wish that on anyone....It was a mis-carry...delivered dead. It was horrible....

That was before I was in the health care biz....

FWIW-

13 posted on 04/17/2014 2:55:50 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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These death policies are the inevitable result of socialism. Socialized medicine is so much more expensive to maintain than private medicine because of the unbelievable number of paper pusher jobs that the bureaucracy generates. There is an ever shrinking percentage of the funds allocated to actual medical treatment while the desk jockeys multiply in numbers and rates of remuneration. Eventually you end up with a National Health Service that employs millions (and well paid millions at that) and treats no one.


14 posted on 04/17/2014 3:02:30 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: Morgana

Was the body then burned for electricity?


16 posted on 04/17/2014 3:08:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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>22-week premature son die in her arms

In her arms? A 14 week old child would fit easily in the palm of her hand. If I remember correctly, about the size of a peach and approximately 3/4 of an ounce in weight.

I’ve never heard of a baby that can survive outside of the womb before about 20 weeks.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 3:32:17 PM PDT by soycd
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The hospital was running low on fuel to heat the building.


19 posted on 04/17/2014 6:21:14 PM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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