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AMD's 'Revolution' will be televised ... if its CPU-GPU frankenchip Kaveri is a hit
The Register ^ | 14 Jan 2014 | By Rik Myslewski,

Posted on 03/03/2014 11:48:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Graphics and x86 cores are all just 'compute units' now for our games, videos and apps

AMD has released its long-awaited Kaveri processor, the first accelerated processing unit (APU) to incorporate both on-die CPU and GPU cores in a heterogeneous system architecture (HSA) with a shared memory architecture.

AMD Kaveri - overview

Behold Kaveri, in which CPUs and GPUs are equal 'compute unit' partners (click to enlarge)

"We're going to need to create a new term," AMD product CTO Joe Macri said at a Kaveri briefing, "because HSA has really changed what can be done on the graphics part of the die."

That new term, Macri explained, is compute cores. "The compute cores can either be CPU cores or graphics cores," he said. "We based them on the historical definition of what a CPU is," meaning that in an HSA system, each compute core – CPU or GPU – is programmable, capable of running at least one process in its own context in its own virtual memory space, and do so independently from all the other cores on the 2.41-billion transistor, 245mm2 die.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: amd; hitech; kaveri
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Much interesting detail on decisions made in design process.
1 posted on 03/03/2014 11:48:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce

Can someone translate this??


2 posted on 03/03/2014 11:52:44 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ShadowAce; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle
Aimed at laptops amd SFF .

To use 22 nm they need FinFET.

which may not be ready for Carrizo,,,,according to discussion on Semi-Accurate Forum.

3 posted on 03/03/2014 11:53:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is this the recent TV ad for a tablet on which you can do four things at once? I think it was a Samsung ad.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 12:08:16 PM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of ObamaÂ’s America)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hmmm....just about ready to build a new machine to replace my aging but still useful Intel dual core 3.4ghz machine.

This will be out of my budget but other chips will drop.

Might have to wait a bit...


5 posted on 03/03/2014 12:11:17 PM PST by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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To: GeronL
Can someone translate this??

The chip can have up to 12 cores, a mix of CPU (used for regular tasks) of GPU (graphics processing units; used for rendering in games or video, and also for certain intensive calculating tasks).

In short, it can do a lot more stuff in parallel.

6 posted on 03/03/2014 12:18:46 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: GeronL

“of GPU” -> “or GPU”


7 posted on 03/03/2014 12:19:53 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting that they actually say that 22nm will be slower.
Scaling below 28nm is REALLY hard.
Without finfet power goes up, performance drops.
Comments about it being a compromise indicates they are having problems getting power low enough for laptops.
Should work for desktop though.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 12:29:16 PM PST by Zathras
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To: shove_it
Samsunf has an octa chip using ARM ISA....not x86 ISA....

ISA is Instruction Set Architecute,.

9 posted on 03/03/2014 12:34:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: GeronL

[ Can someone translate this?? ]

You need to bounce the graviton particle beam from the secondary nadion emiiter through the primary EPS conduiot into the Secondary plasma intake manifold via the Impulse generator bypass....


10 posted on 03/03/2014 12:38:28 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

oh, why didn’t they just say so! Now I get it.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 12:39:08 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
They had previously mashed a Graphic chip onto the same die as a quad core X86 processor.

They now have seriously improved how they can work together.

With proper programming.

It is a very BIG DEAL for what can be done on a laptop.

12 posted on 03/03/2014 12:41:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"AMD will fling radical 'Kaveri' chips onto streets in January"

Holy cow. What happens if a truck tire passes over one of the chips!
This stuff is getting beyond my level to appreciate.
13 posted on 03/03/2014 12:44:03 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: GeronL

I would make an awesome Starfleet engineer, it is all about BSing your way out of technical problems...


14 posted on 03/03/2014 12:44:26 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

You forgot the gizmo. No technical explanation should be w/o a gizmo.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 12:46:28 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: GraceG

You need to bounce the graviton particle beam from the secondary nadion emiiter through the primary EPS conduiot into the Secondary plasma intake manifold via the Impulse generator bypass....

Thank you, Sheldon, that was very illuminating.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 12:51:25 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: prisoner6
You need to read up on the Kaveri chip...

Many complain that does not have enough serious traditional CPU horsepower,...no much complaining about the serious graphics horsepower

17 posted on 03/03/2014 12:53:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Marine_Uncle
WHAT???

If you can run flighty Simulators and ...you can understand this stuff.

18 posted on 03/03/2014 12:59:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: GeronL; Marine_Uncle
Remember...It is a "frankenchip Kaveri"
19 posted on 03/03/2014 1:01:57 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Absolutely! For me graphics are pretty much secondary. But if Kaveri becomes the hot thing, maybe I can get a better I5.


20 posted on 03/03/2014 1:02:29 PM PST by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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