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Have at it folks. I'll post this in General/Chat to save time as the mods would no doubt move it here if I posted in the News Forum.

Previously posted thread earlier today on another NMSP shooting:
Lawyer: People should be ‘outraged’ (video - NMSP officer shoots, kills driver during traffic stop)

1 posted on 01/17/2014 10:53:28 AM PST by CedarDave
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2 posted on 01/17/2014 10:55:22 AM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: CedarDave

This incident was FReeped to death. Last year. When it happened. Several threads.


3 posted on 01/17/2014 11:00:44 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: CedarDave

Of course. I shoot into unseen places all the time. Joe Biden told me to.

(The JBT’s heart didn’t “sink” because he shot into a van full of kids. It sank because he knew there’s going to be a s***storm of bad press over it.)


4 posted on 01/17/2014 11:02:26 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: CedarDave

His heart sank because he knows he’s done.


7 posted on 01/17/2014 11:11:37 AM PST by marron
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To: CedarDave

I posted this last time around.

The cops at the scene, in the know, were using non-lethal force, not shooting, and this guy runs up, not knowing who or what is in the van, and starts shooting at it.

He should not be an armed cop, he is careless and excitable, with bad shooting judgement.


9 posted on 01/17/2014 11:15:05 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: CedarDave

His heart sank because he’ll be someone else’s bitch inside prison.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 11:31:24 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: CedarDave

I guess in a way its really good the cop couldn’t shoot worth a poop.

And in a way its good he’s no longer pretending to Protect and Serve while sucking up gubmit money.


12 posted on 01/17/2014 11:47:44 AM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: CedarDave

The “fleeing felon” rule was significantly restricted by the Supreme Court in Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985).

Wikipedia has a decent one-sentence summary of the Garner case:

“When a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may use deadly force only to prevent escape if the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”

From my reading of the press coverage, the predicate for deadly force was completely lacking here.


14 posted on 01/17/2014 12:17:35 PM PST by JackOfVA
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To: CedarDave

He had the license plate number right? Just call it in and arrest her at her residence. Cops see too many TV and movie chase scenes.


15 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:02 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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Cop's 'Heart Sank' on Realizing Shots Fired at Minivan Full of Kids

"My pension! NOOOOOOOO!"

21 posted on 01/17/2014 2:43:56 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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The presence or absence of children in the van is irrelevent. He had absolutely no legal right or
cause to draw his weapon let alone fire it. The vehicle
in question was moving AWAY from him and the other officers.
It posed absolutely ZERO threat to him or anyone else at that time therefore he had NO LEGAL BASIS for his use of
deadly force. In order for justice to even REMOTELY be
served this assclown pinned to a badge needs to be arrested
and charged for the numerous crimes he committed...including criminal assault and assault with a deadly weapon.


22 posted on 01/17/2014 9:31:20 PM PST by nvscanman
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