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Lawyer: People should be ‘outraged’ (video - NMSP officer shoots, kills driver during traffic stop)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | January 17, 2014 | Andy Stiny

Posted on 01/17/2014 9:12:59 AM PST by CedarDave

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To: cuban leaf

There are dangerous people. There are stupid people who do dangerous stuff. There are people who make poor decisions.

She chose poorly when she decided to run. IMO that is not worth the death penalty delivered summarily by law enforcement.


61 posted on 01/17/2014 10:32:03 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CedarDave

What the hell is the matter with New Mexico and when did it become indistinguishable from old Mexico?


62 posted on 01/17/2014 10:33:04 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Veggie Todd
I’m so glad the cop went home safely.

...and that's all that really matters.

63 posted on 01/17/2014 10:34:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: cuban leaf

If he shot at her as she was backing into him I’d be ok with it. She was putting his life in danger. Although there’s an argument that his stepping out of the car into that position was what put him in danger.

Him running beside her car to shoot at her is murder in my book.


64 posted on 01/17/2014 10:34:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CedarDave

She was driving erratically and the officer was right to maneuver her over as he did. However erratic driving is not a capital offense and she was driving away when he shot at her. That in my opinion was not justified.


65 posted on 01/17/2014 10:34:23 AM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: dsc

Police officers have guns to shoot anything that makes them feel the slightest bit insecure.


66 posted on 01/17/2014 10:34:58 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: CedarDave
I used to think that having videotapes rolling would keep these incidents from happening.

But no, they seem to be proud of their work and soon, we will see them on YouTube with the title "OMG WTF I capped dis dirtbag and hes all DEAD LOL"

67 posted on 01/17/2014 10:36:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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68 posted on 01/17/2014 10:36:51 AM PST by CedarDave (Fox News - Obama couldn't sign up for healthcare because the system couldn't verify his identity!)
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To: onedoug

No evidence that she tried to kill the cop.

If you or I shot her under those conditions we would be up for murder.


69 posted on 01/17/2014 10:37:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: McGruff

If you shoot at a car driving away from you then you’ll most likely end up in jail.


70 posted on 01/17/2014 10:39:37 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: null and void
"but that if Wilson wasn’t wearing a police uniform, he’d be facing a first-degree murder charge now."

The cop has responsibilities to all of the other citizens out there too. This lady had been observed as a reckless and dangerous driver and had committed assault with a deadly weapon almost running over the cop with her car. Everyone in her path was in danger. Officers have responsibilities to stop out of control people who have committed dangerous life threatening criminal acts before they injure or kill others.

After her continued and clearly visible mindset of total disregard for the safety and lives of others she had to be stopped. That was his job, his responsibility.

She was not the victim in this, she was the aggressive and callus perpetrator.

71 posted on 01/17/2014 10:40:57 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Secret Agent Man

“every single person who runs is an equal threat and therefore deserving of being shot?”

Please don’t stoop to such nonsense.

However, every single person who runs is at that time in the commission of a felony.


72 posted on 01/17/2014 10:45:42 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: driftdiver

“If you or I shot her under those conditions we would be up for murder.”

And that is as it should be. Policemen, however, have a broader spectrum of authority. They can require you to stop. Not ask; require.


73 posted on 01/17/2014 10:47:53 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And speaking of “affirmative action”, what about that yankee city PD that brought in blacks who couldn’t read, just so they could meet “quotas?” Yeah, that’s gonna give the PO PO real credibility.


74 posted on 01/17/2014 10:48:57 AM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: driftdiver

“Police officers have guns to shoot anything that makes them feel the slightest bit insecure.”

Funny. There are two things to say about that, though.

1. I don’t have a problem with policemen shooting fleeding felons.

2. Get women cops off the street, and there will be many fewer shootings.


75 posted on 01/17/2014 10:49:57 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: camle

“what erratic driving?”

Didn’t she run the red light at the very beginning of the clip?


76 posted on 01/17/2014 10:51:02 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: CedarDave

We are headed towards war here at home

Baring a miracle or defeat without fighting back

The police will either peel off with us or become targets of opportunity to get the good arms and other insurgency needs

This is how it always evolves ask anyone who has lived it or seen it first hand

Your friendly local precient or sherfiffs office will become a reinforced federal bunker or an abandoned pillaged waste

Where will cops like this Fife land?

Grim outlook early on for him

Horiuchi bound...likely an early revenge casualty


77 posted on 01/17/2014 10:51:23 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: driftdiver

I meant “fleeing felons.”


78 posted on 01/17/2014 10:51:45 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: driftdiver

“IMO that is not worth the death penalty delivered summarily by law enforcement.”

Seems to me that maybe part of the reason that society is in such a mess is that cops stopped shooting criminals.


79 posted on 01/17/2014 10:53:38 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: driftdiver

There are dangerous people. There are stupid people who do dangerous stuff. There are people who make poor decisions.

She chose poorly when she decided to run. IMO that is not worth the death penalty delivered summarily by law enforcement.


I agree with everything you said. It didnt deserve the death penalty. But that is why we categorise some acts as “stupid people who do dangerous stuff”. A note to the “not stupid”: Don’t cause a police chase and, once stupped, ram the police car with your car, risking the legs (and life) of a police officer. At that point you have used deadly force against another human being (who happens to hold a gun). And all that that implies...


80 posted on 01/17/2014 10:54:41 AM PST by cuban leaf
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