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"New" Book, <i>Hypersonic Revolution: The Quest for the Orbital Jet</i>
self | 12/30/2013 | LS

Posted on 12/30/2013 5:41:20 AM PST by LS

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To: OftheOhio

You are so right. The program DID get a) liquid hydrogen-—we made it, pumped it, stored it, and got it to be an effective fuel; b) VERY advanced materials, including some that are still classified; and c) computational fluid dynamics-—which can take SOME of the place of testing. But the biggie was the scramjet-—the rest of it was meaningless if we couldn’t get the scrammie to work.


21 posted on 12/30/2013 8:11:06 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: DManA

I follow it a little. First, the USAF has two programs related to the scramjet and fuels that have been successful. They got a scrammie to work up to Mach 10. We could have begun testing the NASP with a Mach 10 scramjet. Second, the developments in the private sector will easily overtake government work in the next 10 years and probably do what NASP was supposed to do anyway.


22 posted on 12/30/2013 8:12:32 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Lx

Sorry. You’ll have to pay through the nose like everyone else.


23 posted on 12/30/2013 8:12:56 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Go to the link and you’ll know as much about it as I do. As I said, I get nothing from this.


24 posted on 12/30/2013 8:13:27 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

I figured that unless my local library carries it.
Do we have an orbital plane currently?


25 posted on 12/30/2013 8:18:25 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: LS

Consider that the SR-71 Blackbird created almost 50 years ago was capable of mach 3+. It would stand to reason that newer technologies have been developed in the last 50 years that could easily have pushed the envelop for jet powered aircraft to mach 6 and beyond.


26 posted on 12/30/2013 8:24:43 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Lx

No. The last one was the Space Shuttle, which was problematic as you know.


27 posted on 12/30/2013 9:14:11 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

Do you know if they published it in e-book format?

Thanks, Doc!


28 posted on 12/30/2013 9:41:07 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JRios1968

Sorry, I don’t know much at all. Just found out about it and don’t even know who to contact.


29 posted on 12/30/2013 9:56:07 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

No problem. Thanks again!


30 posted on 12/30/2013 10:00:44 AM PST by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: Ransomed
This might interest you...

http://roadrunnersinternationale.com/transporting_the_a-12.html

31 posted on 12/30/2013 10:06:01 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: LS; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Oooh, Larry, I’m headed off to the bookstore, or if need be, the online bookstore!


32 posted on 12/30/2013 10:21:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Truly amazing pics and story. They had to do some amazing things to get those things through, shaving down banks on either side of the road.

Freegards


33 posted on 12/30/2013 10:32:56 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Hot Tabasco

That was a great read on the A-12. That was way before the age of computer aided drafting, the draftsmen in those days were GODS. Companies today think some rookie engineer out of college can do drafting, design, and engineering analysis all by his lonesome. You don’t know how such a “fail” concept this is.


34 posted on 12/30/2013 10:44:30 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you! Modern World is simply a great book. Next to PHUSA the best I’ve ever written. My favorite parts are on the car culture in America and the copycat Russians.


35 posted on 12/30/2013 3:44:35 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

SAo, the B-52 gravity-dropped drones and X-15’s, which then rocket-boosted upwards in “space” - although few (if any ??) had a large enough booster to do more than coast up, get data, then drop back.

The SR-71 launched drones into Chinese airport at mach + speeds. Those were horizontal flight only.

The B-58 Hustler could drop loads at Mach + speeds, so we know the physics and aerodynamics of Mach+ separation pretty well, even back in the mid and late 60’s. Didn’t always work though - the SR-71 drones did have at least 2 failures that I know of.

Could the Valkyrie bomber - which could carry loads internally as large and as heavy as the B-52 could but do it supersonically and to much higher altitudes - carry a meaningful boosted-rocket payload into space? Seems that getting a payload to 75,000 feet and Mach 1. to 2.0 - even if the flight itself were short-ranged - would be a substantial improvement at the cost of refurbing the plane now museumed into oblivion.


36 posted on 12/30/2013 6:56:08 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: LS

Title The hypersonic revolution : case studies in the history of hypersonic technology.
Internet Access Vol. 1: http://purl.access.gpo.gov/GPO/LPS47674
Vol. 2: http://purl.access.gpo.gov/GPO/LPS47676
Vol. 3: http://purl.access.gpo.gov/GPO/LPS47677
Publisher Info. Bolling AFB, DC : Air Force History and Museums Program : ]For sale by the Supt. of Docs., U.S. G.P.O.], 1998.

SuDoc Number D 301.82/7:H 99/V.1-3
ISBN 0160677025 : $78.00
Item Number 0422-M-01

0422-M-01 (online)

Edition 1998 ed.
Description 3 v. (various pagings) : ill. ; 28 cm.
General Note Shipping list no.: 1999-0009-S.
Bibliography Includes bibliographical references.
Contents Contents: V. 1. From Max Valier to Project PRIME, 1924-1967 / edited by Richard P. Hallion — v. 2. From Scramjet to the national aero-space plane, 1964-1986 / edited by Richard P. Hallion — v. 3. The quest for the orbital jet, the National Aero-Space Plane Program, 1983-1995 / by Larry Schweikart.
Additional Form Also available via Internet from the Air Force History web site. Addresses as of 4/20/04: http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/Publications/fulltext/hypersonic%5Frevolution1.pdf (vol. 1), http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/Publications/fulltext/hypersonic%5Frevolution2.pdf (vol. 2), and http://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/Publications/fulltext/hypersonic%5Frevolution3.pdf (vol. 3); current access is available via PURLs.
Subject - LC Aerodynamics, Hypersonic — History.
Added Entry Hallion, Richard.
Schweikart, Larry.
Added Entry Air Force History and Museums Program (U.S.)
Stock Number/Avail. 008-070-00783-5 GPO

Holdings All items
Locate in a Library (paper, online) http://catalog.gpo.gov/fdlpdir/locate.jsp?ItemNumber=0422-M-01&SYS=000566638

OCLC Number (OCoLC)40475879
ocm40475879
System Number 000566638

http://catalog.gpo.gov/F?func=find-b&find_code=WRD&request=Larry+Schweikart


37 posted on 12/30/2013 11:43:14 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: DManA

No.


38 posted on 10/08/2018 6:05:36 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SunkenCiv

Online. No bookstore would carry this one.


39 posted on 10/08/2018 6:06:24 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

You’re everywhere dude! Excellent.


40 posted on 10/08/2018 6:11:49 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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