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Our sick gun fetish is destroying us: Tea Party fantasies kill kids
Salon.com ^ | 12/14/2013 | Richard Eskow

Posted on 12/16/2013 10:13:41 PM PST by rktman

Maybe you’ve heard about the “bullet fee” that was supposedly charged to the families of prisoners executed by gunfire. The fee, which is almost certainly an urban legend, has been attributed at various times to Bolshevik revolutionaries and the governments of Iran and China.

But even if the bullet fee is mythical, there is a very real price to be paid when a society becomes intoxicated by gunplay. What price have we paid for the bullets fired at Newtown and in the year since that tragedy?

The financial estimates only scratch the surface.

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: agitprop; antisecond; astroturf; bang; banglist; dnctalkingpoints; gungrabbers; pravdamedia; propaganda; salonstockdeathwatch; screed; secondamendment
WOW. Just WOW! If you can stomach the "hole" article. What a pathetic pos. He might as well have said the Tea Party also fantasizes about killing black babies too. I'm sure mr. eskow attended one of the Newtown "celebrations" on Saturday as well.
1 posted on 12/16/2013 10:13:42 PM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

no

I can’t stomach it. That applies to pretty much everything from Salon.


2 posted on 12/16/2013 10:17:47 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: rktman

Richard Eskow is a pathetic, sissified, little commie maggot. JMO. Hey Dick, if you can’t take the freedom, get the hell out. North Korea is nice this time of year, sissy boy.


3 posted on 12/16/2013 10:19:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all my fellow Americans. "Whatever" to everybody else!)
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To: rktman

Project much Eskow?


4 posted on 12/16/2013 10:19:35 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: rktman

5 posted on 12/16/2013 10:27:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: rktman
The fee, which is almost certainly an urban legend...
But even if the bullet fee is mythical...

There is a clear contradiction in these statments, which follow very close to one another. Communists have in fact charged families for the executions of their loved ones.
6 posted on 12/16/2013 10:29:26 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: rktman

The shooters are nearly 100% Liberals, the harsh reality hurts the sick twisted mind of little Dick.


7 posted on 12/16/2013 10:34:19 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: rktman

Interestingly, all of the mass shooters have been lefties, not TEA Party members.


8 posted on 12/16/2013 10:36:15 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: wac3rd

“The shooters are nearly 100% Liberals, the harsh reality hurts the sick twisted mind of little Dick.”

BINGO. The L.A. shooter for example, worshipped obama. not one media lefty outlet reported that.


9 posted on 12/16/2013 10:44:45 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: stilloftyhenight
"Interestingly, all of the mass shooters have been lefties, not TEA Party members"

Yes, funny how that works out.

Once the media finds out the politics of the shooter, they shut up and focus on GUNS.

I really can't remember a mass shooter who was anything BUT a leftist.

But the MSM is just lying in wait until that happens.

10 posted on 12/16/2013 10:44:54 PM PST by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: rktman

the dangerous part isn’t citizens being able to defend themselves...

it’s ignoring the mentally ill until they go batsh*t and start killing people

all shooting involving medicated people are the direct fault of the dems and their policies


11 posted on 12/16/2013 10:49:51 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: rktman

A socialist just shot up a school.


12 posted on 12/16/2013 10:52:49 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: rktman
When I was in elementary school, even living in a urban environment, probably half the kids owned guns. When I was in junior high, maybe a third owned guns, but we did have a lot of immigrants coming in from Hong Kong. When I was in high school, maybe 12% owned guns, and gun racks weren't unique in the parking lot trucks...

When I was in college, there were some who questioned the archery program, the shooting club was disbanded, and the gun racks disappeared.

When I was building cannons with my brother while I was in elementary school, I felt safe. In junior high, I'd be with a few other kids carving with our knives between classes, and I felt somewhat safe. In high school, sometimes people even worried about sharp pencils and bars started appearing around the campus, along with tall fences, and I felt far less safe. In the last year, when the archery club was disbanded, guns were forbidden in cars on campus, and an officer was stationed at the school was the most violent year I ever spent in school. Minor rivalries turned into huge brawls, and twice the school bus was shot on the way to an away game.

We spend too much effort 'making our kids safe.' All we end up doing is making it safe for the criminals to prey upon them. And for liberals who live in their fantasy worlds, they will never look at the world around them for answers. They won't examine how it was, because that reality runs counter to their pretend world.

13 posted on 12/16/2013 10:54:29 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: rktman
Every single left winger is a potential Adam Lanza and these vermin expect me to turn in my guns?

Children are 1000X safer in my house than in any government school.
14 posted on 12/16/2013 11:39:57 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: rktman
But then, as the railroads and industrialists and combines began to steal the American dream away from the farmers and ranchers, the cowboys and settlers, the gun became our consolation prize, our sublimated revenge, a symbolic instrument of power to distract us from the real power – the economic power – that had been taken from us.

That sure is a lot of bs for one short paragraph.

15 posted on 12/16/2013 11:54:55 PM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: rktman

Salon.com... that website is a portal for sick fetishes if there ever was one. Still... I think I will stick to my regular pron sites, thanks.


16 posted on 12/16/2013 11:56:10 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: rktman

Interesting how they calculate the cost to society of gun ownership. I guess they didn’t factor in the +100 million disarmed civilians who lost their lives in the last century.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 12:01:20 AM PST by kik5150
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To: rktman
"Our sick gun fetish is destroying us: Tea Party fantasies kill kids..."

Obviously a matter of opinion.

"Our clueless, as well as sick anti-gun Bloomingidiot fetish kill lots of kids.
Also a matter of opinion.

The results will define reality. And fortunately only one of these two opinions will match reality. Unfortunately the laws in the high crime states almost exclusively choose the former suicidal option.

With time, reality will define the rational option.
When seconds count, the "professional defenders" of society are just minutes away!

18 posted on 12/17/2013 12:12:41 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: rktman

The Left has fantasies and pipe dreams—of shoes and ships and sealing-wax—of cabbages and kings. And why the sea is boiling hot and whether pigs have wings. I’m surprised they haven’t said the Earth was flat and the sun rotated around the Earth. Of course, there is no fantasy about killing human beings in the womb.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 12:17:27 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: rktman
The author is Exhibit #1 ...

Articles that explain how modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 12:20:07 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: rktman

The armed criminal roams freely with the all but certain knowledge that no one else is armed. Feeling empowered with that knowledge allows them to act on almost any whim.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 12:31:29 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: rktman

This guy is just adding to a hysteria that is trumped up to the 100th power ! the only reasons these people rant is because news media pushes it along most people who carry guns don’t really give a damn about the other folks carrying guns guns are a personal thing ..

I used to carry open carry right here in Ohio i would walk right into stores and shops with no qualms about carrying a gun and never had a problem with police or thugs i used to drive around with a loaded shotgun and rifle both in my truck nary a word was said to me or about it from anyone ...

But due to the hysteria media has created over guns it’s not safe to open carry or you’ll get arrested detained or questioned for hours on end about your intentions of what your going to use the gun for they tell you your not allowed to carry a loaded shotgun or rifle in your truck anymore because “ Someone might steal them “ and yet they tell you as well you cant carry your shotgun concealed either !

All of this has been created by a frenzied media and perpetuated by still even more folks who are more scared of their temper than they are the gun “ liberals “ Because face it liberals are the childlike creatures of this planet throwing a tantrum over anything if they think it will benefit them or the cause they believe everyone should follow !


22 posted on 12/17/2013 12:52:42 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: rktman

No I can’t tolerate a single second of his rationalizations. This wimp would starve to death while wolves ravage his boney corpse in the wild. Complete worthless idiot! Check back later and I’ll really tell you what I think about his ramblings!


23 posted on 12/17/2013 1:09:29 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: smokingfrog

The Left’s sick fantasy is to remove everyone’s guns except their overlords. When they look doe eyed down the barrel of their overlord’s guns in shock later the last words they hear will be “for the good of the country”


24 posted on 12/17/2013 1:16:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: poobear

BAHA’I

http://sgtreport.com/2013/03/newtown-the-united-nations-and-agenda-21/

This is interesting....remember the smiley faced adults,interviewed...Liberalism does have a religion...and its slated to USE all the others.Its called BAHA’I...apparently ...Ive never heard of it before.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 1:19:23 AM PST by Therapsid
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It is the equivalent of Dan Rather’s “Well, yeah, it’s fake.....but it’s accurate.”


26 posted on 12/17/2013 2:09:25 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: rktman

Another ignorant *sshole heard from.

There’s never any shortage.


27 posted on 12/17/2013 2:25:02 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: rktman

None of the current gun laws stopped them. Gun laws are to harass gun owners and not stop criminals with guns.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 2:41:48 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: rktman

You could pull the word gun out of the article, insert entitlements and or liberalism then multiply the cost listed a 100 fold and the effects on children are 10s of thousands of times worse.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 3:06:28 AM PST by maddog55
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To: rktman
What price have we paid for the many bullets that have been fired in the year since Newtown?

Regardless of the price of the misuse of firearms, the author has no legal right to interfere with our fundamental, God-given, constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms. Fortunately, because we are armed, he and his corrupt liberal allies in government also lack the power to disarm us. If the author had integrity (he doesn't), he would at least consider the benefits to society of the positive uses of firearms by the armed citizenry. That balancing of costs and benefits would lead to exactly the opposite conclusion from the one he wants to impose on us, so he won't mention the rest of the story.

30 posted on 12/17/2013 3:23:15 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: rktman

Obama’s pal, Bill Ayers, bombed homes with children.

Liberal Allan Brauer -Communications Chair of Sacramento County Democrats wishes death on Ted Cruz Speechwriter’s children. He tweeted “May your children all die from debilitating, painful and incurable diseases.”

Liberal associate professor of journalism David Guthhad wishes that the children of NRA members be shot.

Liberal Nina Totenberg wishes the grandchildren of Jessie Helm’s contract aids.

Liberal Alec Baldwin wishes that Henry Hyde’s family be stoned and his children killed.


31 posted on 12/17/2013 3:33:41 AM PST by Rock Eye Jack
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To: rktman

It is the Democrats who fantasize about killing black babies. They are the ones encouraging black genocide through abortion.


32 posted on 12/17/2013 4:49:35 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: smokingfrog

“What price have we paid for the many bullets that have been fired in the year since Newtown? To answer that we need to know: What’s the value of a human life? What’s the cost to a society for allowing itself to be distracted from decades of economic plunder? What’s the value of a child’s lost future, which lies like some subatomic phenomenon in a field of potentiality? Most of all: What does a society lose when it values its children’s lives so cheaply?”

Lets ask the author where he stands on ABORTION....dollars to donuts, he has no problem with that killing.


33 posted on 12/17/2013 4:54:17 AM PST by kyperman (Hows this for a face you love to hate.)
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To: rktman
If you can stomach the "hole" article

I just can't do it. State worshipers always have the same diarrhea stream coming out of their mouths. Sometimes it's about guns, sometimes it's about "weath gap" (but never about "ability gap" or "work value gap") etc. It looks the same and stinks the same whether it's coming from a corrupt mayor of some festering garbage heap of a black run city (Detriot comes to mind) or from some government sycophant in the MSM. Without even looking I'm willing to bet that this pos doesn't want to disarm the police.

34 posted on 12/17/2013 5:04:11 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: TigersEye

One of the most important and consistant characteristics of leftists is that they are unhappy people.

Here is a monogram by John Ray who studied the psycology of leftists during his academic career:

The Motivations of Political Legists

http://tongue-tied2.blogspot.com/2006/06/what-appears-below-is-attempt-to.html


35 posted on 12/17/2013 5:20:24 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: rktman

Contains multiple factual errors. Two examples:

Cerberus had three heads, not two.

Film is normally projected at 24 frames per second, not 64.

What does it say about someone who is unwilling to fact check such very simple statements before posting his article?


36 posted on 12/17/2013 5:36:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Rock Eye Jack

Yeah, but at least the are “passionate” and really “care” about the down trodden. Sarcasm off!


37 posted on 12/17/2013 5:42:41 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Dem/lib/socialist/marxist/commie/scumbag response: “Facts? We don’t need no steenkin’ facts!”


38 posted on 12/17/2013 5:49:09 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

Number of people my guns have murdered: 0.
Number of babies liberal abortion clinics have killed: Millions.


39 posted on 12/17/2013 6:12:09 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad

Yup. That’s why they say the republicrats and Tea Party have a war on women.(?) Those people want women to be “punished” by having to raise a child. (?) I guess that’s just liblogic. No death penalty but abortions free of charge. I know, it’s not really human until it leave the birth canal. Right? Didiots.


40 posted on 12/17/2013 6:19:25 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

Oh that evil Tea Party. :-)


41 posted on 12/17/2013 7:43:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: boop
But the MSM is just lying in wait until that happens.

Fixed.

42 posted on 12/17/2013 8:07:00 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: rktman

What price have we paid for the bullets fired at Newtown and in the year since that tragedy?

A Year of listening to whiney asswads pontificate from on high how much smarter they are then the Founders of our Nation. A year of attack on the 2nd Amendment non of which would have prevented an evil person from killing children. There is more but why bother......


43 posted on 12/17/2013 8:47:10 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign is for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: jsanders2001

You are correct, sir.


44 posted on 12/17/2013 8:53:51 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: kyperman

You can always count on the lefties to use “the children” to advance their radical agenda. Of course, children in the womb don’t seem to matter so much.


45 posted on 12/17/2013 8:58:32 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

// There is a clear contradiction in these statements, which follow very close to one another. Communists have in fact charged families for the executions of their loved ones. //

...As simple research would have shown him: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124571865270639351

He clearly could not let the truth get in the way of his fairy tale — a liberal fairy tale that further claims that *we* are deluded for believing (silly us!) such a horrible thing as a bullet fee in totalitarian regimes (similar, death panels).

Ah, the LAYERS of liberal conceit and deceit that ignore and cover over truth.

Thank God algore brought out the internet.


46 posted on 12/17/2013 9:20:58 AM PST by cyn
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To: TigersEye

Great links, thanks for posting. What pompous deluded projecting twits.


47 posted on 12/17/2013 9:26:23 AM PST by cyn
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To: max americana

DC shooter, Gabby Giffords, Newtown, Ft. Hood, inner city, knock out gamers, all Lefty/Welfare types...all Commies, all hate the US and them the media supports them.

This ending will not, repeat, not, be pretty.


48 posted on 12/17/2013 9:45:17 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: cyn
What pompous deluded projecting twits.

LOL That pretty much sums them up.

49 posted on 12/17/2013 11:06:05 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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