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BCS standings released, Week 15: Ohio State vs. Auburn the final rankings debate
SB Nation ^ | Dec 1 2013 | Jason Kirk

Posted on 12/02/2013 8:34:12 AM PST by xzins

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1 posted on 12/02/2013 8:34:12 AM PST by xzins
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Everyone has always known that a playoff is the best answer. Not until next year, though. We’re stuck with polling as the means of pairing the best teams.

I’m glad to have a 4 team playoff, but I prefer an 8 team. I’m fairly sure 8 teams will definitely include the best in the nation.

I’m also surprised how many fans don’t know the difference between “strength of schedule” and “strength of schedule rank.”

Just because my SOS rank is 40 and yours is 60 doesn’t mean they are separated by a significant actual SOS. That could be by as little as 2 or 3 points, given they get carried out to 3 or 4 decimal places.

For example, Arizona State at 10-2 has the #4 ranked SOS. Auburn at 11-1 has an SOS rank of #26.

If Auburn should jump over Ohio State because it has one loss but an sos rank of 26 and osu has zero losses but an sos rank 61, shouldn’t Az State, by the same logic, jump over Auburn?

Auburn’s SOS is 74 and Ohio States is 68. (Higher is better in actual sos.) What that means is averaging the strengths of the teams played by Auburn gives a 74 and averaging OSU’s gives a 68. Averaging Arizona State’s gives an 80.

If one were to talk schedule, here is Auburn’s:

Sat, Aug 31 vs

#34 Washington St
#110 Arkansas State
#44 Mississippi St
#17 LSU
#35 Ole Miss
#217 W Carolina
#19 Texas A&M
#80 Florida Atl
#83 Arkansas
#63 Tennessee
#18 Georgia
#2 Alabama
#5 Missouri*

With Missouri, that should average to about a 55 for the team’s played current position rank in the Sagarin format.

Ohio State is an average of 76, also using current rankings.

#68 Buffalo
#96 San Diego State
#121 California
#225 Florida A&M
#10 Wisconsin
#65 Northwestern
#25 Iowa
#52 Penn State
#149 Purdue
#73 Illinois
#57 Indiana
#39 Michigan
#13 Michigan State


2 posted on 12/02/2013 8:35:13 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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There is nothing to debate. If OSU wins they will play for the national title. The SEC was and still is way overrated this year. They should try going 2 years undefeated then they can have a point.


3 posted on 12/02/2013 8:36:20 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: xzins

In 60+ years of football watching, don’t think I’ve ever seen a finish like the Iron Bowl.


4 posted on 12/02/2013 8:37:02 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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That was a great run.


5 posted on 12/02/2013 8:38:04 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: nascarnation

1982 Cal-Stanford is the only thing that comes close. And maybe Flutie’s TD against Miami.


6 posted on 12/02/2013 8:38:45 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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Great execution and coaching (Yes, Coaching Matters!), by Malzahn, knowing Bama would have a bunch of big, slow blockers on the field.


7 posted on 12/02/2013 8:40:04 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: nascarnation
The Return! ...as it will be forever known.
8 posted on 12/02/2013 8:40:16 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: xzins

The SEC has won the last seven BCS championships. It is the best football conference by far. Auburn or Missouri should be in the championship game, depending on who wins the SEC championship.


9 posted on 12/02/2013 8:40:52 AM PST by kabar
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As soon as he caught the kick, I knew he was going to score.


10 posted on 12/02/2013 8:41:08 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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A 8 team playoff still isn't good enough. Lower football divisions run playoffs just fine. There is always the chance for the upset, which makes it great.

The SEC this year is very weak.

11 posted on 12/02/2013 8:41:56 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My healthcare died.)
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Some pretty bad teams in the SEC this year: Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, all pretty atrocious, and none of those teams would even win Conference USA.


12 posted on 12/02/2013 8:42:13 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: for-q-clinton

As an UGA fan, I don’t care. I am not even going to watch the two bozos in the game this weekend.


13 posted on 12/02/2013 8:42:25 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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Everyone in the Obama Administration knows Tulane should be in the national championship game. That is all.


14 posted on 12/02/2013 8:45:57 AM PST by Tulane
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Well if we are using past performance to judge who goes this year...then No one has beaten OSU for 2 years! That makes them #1.


15 posted on 12/02/2013 8:47:45 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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Baylor should be ranked higher.


16 posted on 12/02/2013 8:48:01 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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This is really pretty simple. OSU is undefeated. If they beat Michigan State, they go to the BCS Championship. Auburn and Missouri each have one defeat. If Michigan State beats OSU, the winner of the Auburn/Missouri game goes to the BCS Championship, Having explained that, it really downs’t matter if OSU, Auburn or Misouri goes to the BCS Championship game because Florida State will “murder” any of the three. None of those teams can stay with FSU and in fact, by beating Alabama, Auburn may have saved Bama from being humiliated by FSU. There is one hope for the FSU opponent and that would be if the FSU QB Wilcox is indicted for that sexual assault allegation last December and then suspended before the game. Other than that, FSU romps.


17 posted on 12/02/2013 8:48:30 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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There is nothing to debate. If OSU wins they will play for the national title. The SEC was and still is way overrated this year. They should try going 2 years undefeated then they can have a point.

Winning the last 7 BCS championships in a row is the real test of a conference. OSU had a hard time beating a mediocre Michigan team. The SEC has the best talent and the best teams. The NFL rosters are dominated by the SEC along with the Pro Bowl.

Who the hell has OSU played? Compare that to Auburn or Missouri schedules.

18 posted on 12/02/2013 8:50:02 AM PST by kabar
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To: nascarnation

Most stunning ending to a game of significance since Laettner’s shot against Kentucky 92.

And the funny thing is? Vern Lundquist was on both calls. Man’s lived a charmed life.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 8:50:03 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“downs’t” should have read “doesn’t”. Old typing fingers.


20 posted on 12/02/2013 8:50:34 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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