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If obamacare is a tax how can the waivers not be unconstitutional?

Posted on 11/09/2013 4:47:50 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Like the thread title says, taxes cannot be selectively enforced. If obamacare is a tax, this would seem like an open and shut case for the courts where every single waiver is Unconstitutional.


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1 posted on 11/09/2013 4:47:51 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Your first mistake is assuming that the courts are objective, and rely on the constitution.


2 posted on 11/09/2013 4:49:31 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

answer:

Because it is ONLY a tax for non-Moslems who are not
related to, or working for, those very special,
unique, powerful, self-serving, members of Congress.


3 posted on 11/09/2013 4:49:57 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Red in Blue PA

Exactly! And how can it originate in the Senate?


4 posted on 11/09/2013 4:50:33 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Red in Blue PA
In obamaland, the law doesn't matter. And don't expect the courts to uphold the law. They have been corrupted.
5 posted on 11/09/2013 4:51:43 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Red in Blue PA

There were many waivers granted when Social Security was formed. You will note they are now going after those assets too.


6 posted on 11/09/2013 4:54:19 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Red in Blue PA

The waivers are all temporary. In concentration camps some prisoners were given power and privileges over the others and considered themselves immune from the horrors. But in the end they too died. So shall the unions and special interests lose their waivers once their support is no longer needed.


7 posted on 11/09/2013 5:02:02 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Red in Blue PA

you have raised an excellent point. I think you should write your representatives. seriously.


8 posted on 11/09/2013 5:02:42 AM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

We are not in Kansas any longer. Laws are no longer laws and can be ignored, changed, amended as o dark won sees fit. We tend to forget that we NO LONGER LIVE IN a country of laws. WE NOW LIVE IN A LAWLESS COUNTRY.


9 posted on 11/09/2013 5:09:15 AM PST by V K Lee
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To: Red in Blue PA

it IS unconstitutional...

read Roberts ruling...

then ask yourself one question..

why would fubo delay implementation????


10 posted on 11/09/2013 5:10:32 AM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: V K Lee

OH WELL, BY ALL MEANS, LET’S NOT EVEN BOTHER FIGHTING THEM ANYMORE THEN.


11 posted on 11/09/2013 5:10:58 AM PST by RC one
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12 posted on 11/09/2013 5:10:58 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Totalitarian states do not tolerate pockets of autonomy. The SS has no friends.


13 posted on 11/09/2013 5:14:11 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Cowboy Bob

Amen Brother.

The Constitution doesn’t mean sh*t any more.


14 posted on 11/09/2013 5:28:29 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Absolutely right! But in politics, logic means nothing. In communism, and in American politics, logical contradictions are created, handled, and sustained every day.

In politics, everything is done for its expediency. If it furthers the cause, it’s good.

Everything about liberalism is logically contradictory.


15 posted on 11/09/2013 5:29:35 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I want to know exactly how the bill is worded,if you pay attention all the media is Talking about is the “mandate”taking effect on Jan 1st,but what exactly is the mandate and how is it worded in the actual bill.
I hear that the word penalty is used as being applied if you don’t purchase Health insurance,but the court ruled that unconstitutional,you can’t penalize someone for not purchasing a product,so Obama’s lawyers said ok,it’s a tax,Roberts said ok,the Congress does have the power to tax so the bill is ok.
So now does the bill actually say the mandate is a penalty or does it say it’s a tax,I don’t think this question has been decided at all because it has not yet been implemented,once it is someone can then challenge it in court as unconstitutional,by forcing someone to buy a product from a private business,and I believe John Roberts stated this in his decision when he said he could not rule on this part of the law being constitutional until someone has been harmed by it.


16 posted on 11/09/2013 5:31:57 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Red in Blue PA

In the legal realm they argued that it was a tax. In the political realm, they argued that it was not a tax. They seem to able to have it both ways. A partisan media helps.


17 posted on 11/09/2013 5:34:39 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Red in Blue PA

the IRS makes tax deals all the time.


18 posted on 11/09/2013 5:35:44 AM PST by RockyTx
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To: Red in Blue PA

http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/healthcare/325837-delay-of-obamcares-employer-mandate-draws-new-legal-challenge-


19 posted on 11/09/2013 5:42:22 AM PST by EVO X
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To: RockyTx

So they can have my neighbor pay a 40% tax and me a 50% tax?


20 posted on 11/09/2013 5:45:43 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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