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Hunters – The World’s Largest Army
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Posted on 11/03/2013 11:47:25 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Thoughts on Hunters, this is an interesting slant on things. The world’s largest army; America’s hunters! I had never thought about this, but a blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion:

There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin. Allow me to restate that number: 600,000. Over the last several months, Wisconsin’s hunters became the eighth largest army in the world: more men in arms than in Iran. More than France and Germany combined. These men and women deployed to the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin, to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed.

That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan’s 700,000 hunters, all of whom have now returned home safely. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world. And then add in the total number of hunters in the other 46 states. It’s millions more.

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I don't hunt, but I do love my guns.
1 posted on 11/03/2013 11:47:25 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t hunt, but I will join the hunter army when it starts culling the Leftist herd.


2 posted on 11/03/2013 11:51:00 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It’s why the liberals want to take away firearms of any type...mostly the cousins of true military assault rifles...just think what would have happened if the British didn’t allow the Colonialist muskets - only crossbows or sling shots...made a big difference to stand toe-to-toe with the Brown Bess when one was armed like wise!


3 posted on 11/03/2013 11:53:03 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Texas? Please include us.


4 posted on 11/03/2013 11:55:06 AM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: Bryanw92
Wild boar depredation hunt
5 posted on 11/03/2013 11:58:09 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Red in Blue PA
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6 posted on 11/03/2013 12:01:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Bryanw92
I don’t hunt, but I will join the hunter army when it starts culling the Leftist herd.

I don't think the DNR people would ever support anything like a legal hunting season on Liberals. But I think a private hunting preserve stocked with wild Occupy Wall Street types would be quite popular...

7 posted on 11/03/2013 12:05:14 PM PST by Kenton
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To: Red in Blue PA

The last I saw, there are 90 million gun owners who own somewhere around 400 million firearms, 75 million of which are rifles. Yamamoto was right when he talked about a rifle behind every blade of grass.


8 posted on 11/03/2013 12:05:34 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Bryanw92

I do desire a double rifle in .45-70 or .30-06 for hunting mid to larger game.


9 posted on 11/03/2013 12:05:40 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: BCW

***just think what would have happened if the British didn’t allow the Colonialist muskets.***

Back in the 1870s the British in South Africa ordered all blacks to register their “Birmingham gas pipes”, a slang term for a trade musket.

The guns were then seized. Natives who protested got their muskets back so damaged they were useless.


10 posted on 11/03/2013 12:06:29 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Bryanw92

Unlicensed hunter here too. Millions own guns that do not possess licenses. I won’t need one til they make one for hunting commies.


11 posted on 11/03/2013 12:06:35 PM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

While this is a nice sentiment, it is absolutely disillusion. Push comes to shove, a vast majority of that army of hunters people like to talk about will willingly fall in line when threatened with force from the government.


12 posted on 11/03/2013 12:10:41 PM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Bryanw92
I don’t hunt, but I will join the hunter army when it starts culling the Leftist herd.

This conservative army swells again by the number of individuals that have arms but do not hunt.

13 posted on 11/03/2013 12:14:03 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: mkmensinger
The last I saw, there are 90 million gun owners who own somewhere around 400 million firearms,

Now percentagewise you are making me feel downright greedy.

14 posted on 11/03/2013 12:15:02 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: ez
I suspect there are more guns than people here in Michigan. Shotguns and rifles don't need to be registered in Michigan and there are already 405,408 people registered for handguns in Michigan.

Fewer cops, less crime: MLive investigation finds Michigan safer even as police numbers decline

Last month, 405,408 adults could lawfully carry concealed handguns. That’s up from 53,000 after the first year of Michigan’s shall-issue law.

That means one in 17 adults 21 or older is licensed to carry. Countless more people have guns for sport and protection in their homes.

15 posted on 11/03/2013 12:17:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house.” - Socrates


16 posted on 11/03/2013 12:22:35 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Red in Blue PA
There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin.

And if every hunter has at least one firearm. Two firearms. Three firearms.

17 posted on 11/03/2013 12:23:05 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Obama is a proven liar.)
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To: Hugin; All

The Battle of Athens: Restoring the Rule of Law

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ut6yPrObw


18 posted on 11/03/2013 12:23:57 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Turbo Pig
Good afternoon. I kinda agree with you but...

While this is a nice sentiment, it is absolutely disillusion.

I'm not so sure, given the math...

Push comes to shove, a vast majority of that army of hunters people like to talk about will willingly fall in line when threatened with force from the government.

I agree, but let's look at the numbers. Let's say the vast majority is 90%. That leaves approx. two million hunters. Let's say for the argument, that 40% of that 2M are vets. Now, get into organizing (command structure, commo, logistics, force multipliers, training, etc.), and what do you have? The force structure (minus the toys), of the current U.S. Army.

Food for thought. Thirty three percent of the colonists were against the British. Only about 30% of those actually fought. You know how that turned out.

Think about it. Not as dismal as you would postulate...although the carnage would make the first war between the states look like a walk in the park on a warm spring day.

5.56mm

19 posted on 11/03/2013 12:26:39 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Hugin

Hunters are no disorderly mob. If they were, hundreds would be shot and killed on opening day every year in every state. Hunters already follow some pretty strict rules with no oversight.


20 posted on 11/03/2013 12:29:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I don’t hunt because unless I am eating it, I’m not killing animals. Also fervently hoping it doesn’t ever have to come to that.


21 posted on 11/03/2013 12:29:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: M Kehoe

Keep in mind that IF forces in the US ever turned on the citizens, they have families HERE, and they need to put their heads on a pillow each night.

When forces go overseas, their family is safe thousands of miles away. That would not be the case here.

War is hell; they had better do the calculations before they tread on the citizens.


22 posted on 11/03/2013 12:32:11 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mkmensinger

Yamamoto wasn’t developing drones and mini-drones, placing surveillance cameras at intersections of every main urban road and the interstates, and developing armed robots to deal with those behind the blades of grass.

Technology enables folks to be wiped out before they ever physically see or engage anyone. It would have to happen lightning quick across the entire nation with tens of millions of folks acting together.


23 posted on 11/03/2013 12:33:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cripplecreek

But the point remains, without organization, leadership, discipline and a common goal, thinking we are an “army” is fantasy.


24 posted on 11/03/2013 12:34:21 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Red in Blue PA

this is why so many foreign troops are here - obama’s going to use them, estimated at 400,000 or so. probably stick them in us uniforms and they’ll know limited english, enough to do whatever they have to do.


25 posted on 11/03/2013 12:35:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Technology enables folks to be wiped out before they ever physically see or engage anyone.

Birds have taken down power to areas.

And well placed shots can be made to security cameras from far away using only .22LR.
26 posted on 11/03/2013 12:35:02 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hugin

Yeah they said the same back in the late 1700s.


27 posted on 11/03/2013 12:36:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: higgmeister

And what about cross-country truckers? Aren’t they a rolling army? How many cross-country truckers do we have?


28 posted on 11/03/2013 12:36:54 PM PST by abclily
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To: Hugin
thinking we are an “army” is fantasy.

Obviously the Afghans fighting the Soviets and the US did not think this way. They used crude devices, yet were very effective.....and still are.
29 posted on 11/03/2013 12:39:33 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Those cameras and drones would be the first casualties.


30 posted on 11/03/2013 12:39:41 PM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bamaÂ’s America)
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To: M Kehoe
Think about it. Not as dismal as you would postulate

I won't argue the fact that in the event of a shooting war there would be a HUGE block of the population that could form the core of a resistance movement, or a cadre for a standing army. I just think that it is not related very closely to the great numbers of hunter there are in the country, and anyone how hangs their hopes on the number is not looking at things realistically.

31 posted on 11/03/2013 12:43:56 PM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Add to that there a lot more former military than active duty. And a lot of them are armed and remember their training.
What is the expression, “Not as lean, but still a Marine”?


32 posted on 11/03/2013 12:44:32 PM PST by Texas resident
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To: cripplecreek

The forces who beat the British at Concord were not disorganized. Every town militia met regularly for drill, and had elected officers. Moreover they were backed by a corps of Minute Men, who were trained to the level of professional soldiers. They had a unified regional command structure and political organization that became the nucleus of the Continental Army.


33 posted on 11/03/2013 12:46:18 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Red in Blue PA
If you like to hunt, you will be able to hunt. Period.

If you like your game, you will be able to keep your game. Period.


“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008


What could possibly go wrong?

34 posted on 11/03/2013 12:48:00 PM PST by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: Hugin
We're going to find out.

See you when the power cuts back on.

35 posted on 11/03/2013 12:48:38 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

All you say makes sense.... So why did all that high tech fire power fail to pacify Afghanistan against less then 50000 AL-quida?


36 posted on 11/03/2013 12:49:16 PM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Lazamataz
See you when the power cuts back on.

If you like your power, you will be able to keep your power. Period.

If you like your electronic conveniences, you will be able to keep your electronic conveniences. Period.


37 posted on 11/03/2013 12:51:16 PM PST by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Afghans are not disorganized. They have the oldest military organization in the world, clans and tribes. They have been fighting as such for thousands of years. The entire purpose of life for an Afghan tribesman is to be a warrior worthy of his ancestors.


38 posted on 11/03/2013 12:51:51 PM PST by Hugin
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To: ez

Yep


39 posted on 11/03/2013 12:54:31 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Mechanicos

afghanistan vs america is apples and oranges in too many different ways to count.


40 posted on 11/03/2013 12:55:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: OwenKellogg
Hi guy, I like your meme.

Hope you are doing well.

5.56mm

41 posted on 11/03/2013 12:57:31 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Red in Blue PA
You have to be willing to die to go up against trained troops with military weapons and win. Ten rebels would have to die to kill each Nazi.

If we were willing to shoulder those odds, however, the 90 million rifle owners would win handily.

42 posted on 11/03/2013 1:02:08 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Key fact: a small unit that knows each other well and has a shared training history can beat a larger group of strangers ANY DAY.

That is part of why The Founders feared standing armies.

How often do hunters train together with division of responsibilities...?

BTW the Yamamoto quote so loved was made up.

The cops have VERY intimate contact with the citizenry on a daily basis, yet what do we see more and more of...?

As long as they are fed the cops and soldiers WILL follow their shocking orders...


43 posted on 11/03/2013 1:03:37 PM PST by gaijin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If we were willing to shoulder those odds, however, the 90 million rifle owners would win handily.

Considering the current future before us, it might be surprising how many old guys would be willing.
44 posted on 11/03/2013 1:07:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Perhaps “Army” is the wrong word here. I'm thinking hornets nest. A really big one. One that will stay stirred up for several generations, of the mostly German and Scots and Irish “born fightin’” types. Descendants of the boys that got kicked out of every decent European country, and came down out of the Appalachians, Allegheny, and Blue Ridge, and spread across a continent looking for another good fight. Drones have to land and refuel, and personnel have to leave their MRAPs, and come out from behind ballistic armor sooner or later. Hornets will be patiently waiting. Hundreds of thousands. Every one a marksman. At all points of the compass. For years to come.
45 posted on 11/03/2013 1:09:50 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: gaijin

When a nation fights a series of long, low-intensity wars, soldiers are expected to act like cops and in time, cops act like soldiers.

The cops and soldiers will have NO PROBLEM shooting at us.

Many of them come fro places where it is very natural for troops to be used in policing roles.

Some might even enjoy it.


46 posted on 11/03/2013 1:11:09 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Red in Blue PA

That is why the Japanese knew invading the US in WW2 was impossible.


47 posted on 11/03/2013 1:12:19 PM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Date of Report: September 13, 1995

Congress clearly did not, and does not, understand how deeply affected ordinary Americans were by their government’s actions at Ruby Ridge and at Waco; this is true for New Yorkers, no less than for Idahoans and Texans. That failure, and the growing feeling that their representatives are not doing just that - namely, representing THEM - has become the source of a great deal of widespread frustration among Americans.

The Operation Lexington-Concord is the first study, ever, of its kind - a nationwide survey and analysis of the attitudes of legal gun-owners in America. Unlike the biased, politically-contaminated studies often presented by groups and organizations which have a firearm-prohibitionist agenda, [that group including a fair number of studies which have appeared in the medical literature], Operation Lexington-Concord is objective, and the result of a wholly grassroots volunteer effort. And, unlike most other polls of any type, the sample size in the present study is far larger.

The importance of the findings of this study are momentous, and two unexpected findings are outstanding among all the rest:

- 51.8% of all respondents cited “government” as their greatest fear in life in America today, and

- 73.7% of all respondents stated they would actively resist governmental confiscation of their firearms.

Copy of the Full Report as presented to Congress in 1995
http://rkba.org/research/olc.21sep95


48 posted on 11/03/2013 1:17:28 PM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: PowderMonkey
Perhaps “Army” is the wrong word here. I'm thinking hornets nest. A really big one. One that will stay stirred up for several generations.

It wouldn't be a mass of armed men going up against tanks, certainly not for long. You would end up with small numbers acting independently. Moving around under the radar committing acts of sabotage and small raids. As the strong enemy squeezes the balloon, it just swells up somewhere else.
49 posted on 11/03/2013 1:20:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Vegans excepted, the ONLY difference between a hunter and a non-hunter is the non-hunter pays someone to do his killing for him.


50 posted on 11/03/2013 1:23:41 PM PST by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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