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Global cooling: Are we headed into a ‘little ice age?’
daily caller ^ | 10/29/2013 | Michael Bastach

Posted on 11/03/2013 10:57:43 AM PST by Signalman

leading U.K. scientist.

Professor Mike Lockwood from Reading University told the BBC that at the current rate of decline in solar activity, there is a risk that Northern Europe could become much colder and enter a new “Little Ice Age.”

The “Little Ice Age” refers to a period during the 1600s when winters were harsh all across Europe. The cold weather that plagued the continent coincided with an inactive sun, called the Maunder solar minimum. Lockwood argues that during the late 20th century, the sun was unusually active, with the so-called “grand maximum” of solar activity occurring around 1985. But solar activity has decreased since then.

“By looking back at certain isotopes in ice cores, [Lockwood] has been able to determine how active the sun has been over thousands of years,” The BBC reports.” Following analysis of the data, Professor Lockwood believes solar activity is now falling more rapidly than at any time in the last 10,000 years.”

Based on these findings, Lockwood argues that there is an increased risk of a Maunder minimum; and a repeat of a “Dalton solar minimum,” which occurred in the early 1800s, is “more likely than not” to happen again.

“He believes that we are already beginning to see a change in our climate — witness the colder winters and poor summers of recent years — and that over the next few decades there could be a slide to a new Maunder minimum,” BBC reports, adding that harsh winters and cooler summers would become more frequent.

Lockwood’s research flies directly in the face of scientists who argue that human activities are causing the planet to heat up, commonly known as global warming. They argue that greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide, trap heat in the planet, causing the Earth’s surface

“It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide,” according to the American Physical Society.

However, the globe has not significantly warmed in the last 15 years or so, leading some to criticize previous predictions made by climate scientists.

“[I]n attributing warming to man, they fail to point out that the warming has been small, and totally consistent with there being nothing to be alarmed about,” said Dr. Richard Lindzen of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: globalcooling; miniiceage

1 posted on 11/03/2013 10:57:43 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

2 posted on 11/03/2013 10:58:36 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Signalman

The whole global climate thing simply doesn’t matter. Whatever it is, we’ll adapt. Some people will lose money and some will make money. But, here’s the big point; humanity has zero influence over the climate. The sun is 1.3 million times larger than the Earth. We’re all microscopic nematode sh*t in comparison.


3 posted on 11/03/2013 11:02:14 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Signalman

Obama is getting ready to go to war with AGW so is this possible?/s


4 posted on 11/03/2013 11:02:31 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Signalman
The “Little Ice Age” refers to a period during the 1600s

While there is plenty of disagreement as to exact dates, no one thinks that the Little Ice Age was confined to the seventeenth century. Many would say that the years 1300 to 1850 were brackets for this climactic event.

5 posted on 11/03/2013 11:03:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Al Gore?


6 posted on 11/03/2013 11:04:01 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Gen.Blather

Exactly! I’ve yet to hear what the optimal global temperature is.


7 posted on 11/03/2013 11:04:36 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Signalman

Once the oncoming ice age becomes undeniable, can’t wait for the spin doctors to tell us why Obama’s executive orders on global warming were a good idea after all.

Seriously, these people will be pushing global warming until the Arctic ice sheet envelopes Harvard Yard.


8 posted on 11/03/2013 11:05:52 AM PST by rbg81
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To: old curmudgeon
Al Gore?

It's a Goresicle!

9 posted on 11/03/2013 11:07:13 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Huskrrrr

42 is the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life but I guess I wouldn’t suggest it as the optimal global temperature.


10 posted on 11/03/2013 11:07:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: rbg81
Once the oncoming ice age becomes undeniable, can’t wait for the spin doctors to tell us why Obama’s executive orders on global warming were a good idea after all.

They will tell us that Obama was responsible for the polar ice to reform.

11 posted on 11/03/2013 11:11:07 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Signalman

Sunspots have been very active this month. Probably the highest they’ve been this max. I thought we had passed the max.


12 posted on 11/03/2013 11:11:41 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: ClearCase_guy

I didn’t know this but the final and last book of the series was published back in 2009.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy

It was announced on 17 September 2008 that the author of Artemis Fowl, Eoin Colfer, had been commissioned to write the sixth instalment entitled And Another Thing... with the support of Jane Belson, Adams’ widow.[20][21]

The story begins as death rays bear down on Earth, and the characters awaken from a virtual reality. Zaphod picks them up shortly before they’re killed, but completely fails to escape the death beams. They are then saved by Bowerick Wowbagger, the Infinitely Prolonged, whom they agree to help kill. Zaphod travels to Asgard to get Thor’s help. In the meantime, the Vogons are heading to destroy a colony of people who also escaped Earth’s destruction, on the planet Nano. Arthur, Wowbagger, Trillian and Random head to Nano to try to stop the Vogons, and on the journey, Wowbagger and Trillian fall in love, making Wowbagger question whether or not he wants to be killed. Zaphod arrives with Thor, who then signs up to be the planet’s God. With Random’s help, Thor almost kills Wowbagger. Wowbagger, who merely loses his immortality, then marries Trillian.

Thor then stops the first Vogon attack, and apparently dies. Meanwhile, Constant Mown, son of Prostetnic Jeltz, convinces his father that the people on the planet are not citizens of Earth, but are, in fact, citizens of Nano, which means that it would be illegal to kill them. As the book draws to a close, Arthur is on his way to check out a possible university for Random, when, during a hyperspace jump, he is flung across alternate universes, has a brief encounter with Fenchurch, and ends up exactly where he’d want to be. And then the Vogons turn up again.


13 posted on 11/03/2013 11:12:01 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: FReepers

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14 posted on 11/03/2013 11:15:50 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Signalman

Just when human technology has advanced to the point where we could save earth from the deep freeze we were ruled by idiots.


15 posted on 11/03/2013 11:20:04 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Signalman

Cooling warming they will twist any reality as the fault of capitalism and all it’s trappings.


16 posted on 11/03/2013 11:25:36 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Signalman

“Ice Age”...

That’s so 1970’s.


17 posted on 11/03/2013 11:25:59 AM PST by berdie
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To: Signalman
Deja vu, all over again...Reminds me of when I was a Geology undergrad in the 70s. The big hype was the coming ice age, back before global warming got to be the ticket.

It's a 33 year cycle...

18 posted on 11/03/2013 11:27:56 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Signalman

You folks in Texas don’t mind that a Minnesotan (conservative!) move down there till this “blows over,” do ya?


19 posted on 11/03/2013 11:30:06 AM PST by Thorliveshere (I wish I lived in Texas.)
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To: Thorliveshere
We Texans would love for you to move down here and we are soooo hoping for this little ice age! Come on cold weather we love it here! :)
20 posted on 11/03/2013 11:32:05 AM PST by Ditter
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To: rbg81

no, they will simply pivot and say that humans are actually causing global cooling will all the carbon dioxide and pollutants and thus we need to crack down on these things even more.

Never in a MILLION years will the left advocate for us to polute more to help save the planet from an impending ice age.


21 posted on 11/03/2013 11:32:50 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Answer: whatever the temperature is as the time is the optimal temperature.


22 posted on 11/03/2013 11:39:31 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: rbg81
Yup. Fire up the SUVs and burn some forests.
23 posted on 11/03/2013 11:40:14 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: ClearCase_guy
Lol. But what is the question?
24 posted on 11/03/2013 11:40:43 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: TexasFreeper2009

But if all of the “bad things” that humans are doing are causing global warming, wouldn’t logic dictate that in order to counteract global cooling we should do more of the “bad things?”


25 posted on 11/03/2013 11:43:49 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Signalman

Answer- yes. And the global warming investment world would have had people directed to the warming and....voila made a killing in oil/carbon stocks— the works. Taking actions designed to prevent global warming in theory anyway would—accentuate cooling. Great job algore you pimp. And Golden Slacks.


26 posted on 11/03/2013 11:45:06 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: dhs12345

yep, which is why at some point they will have to pivot and say their original analysis was wrong and that humans are actually causing global cooling :)

Because under no circumstances will the assault on capitalism cease.


27 posted on 11/03/2013 11:48:26 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Looks like Time will have to dust off their infamous “global cooling” cover that they did in the 70’s...that is, if anyone reads that rather expensive bird cage liner anymore.


28 posted on 11/03/2013 11:49:39 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: FreeReign
Sunspots have been very active this month. Probably the highest they’ve been this max. I thought we had passed the max.

Magnetic strength has been very weak this solar maximum. Sunspot numbers are all biased by who and how the counting is done. For example a sunspot number of 90 today actually translates to a number of 50 once corrected to accurately compare it to sunspot counts from over a hundred years ago. So we are still in a weak solar maximum. Perhaps the second peak or second group of spikes in sunspot formation. Sunspots are just an approximation for total solar activity levels.


29 posted on 11/03/2013 12:01:27 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Gen.Blather

You’re correct, of course.

But the sad reality is that the average 20-something knows lots more about “climate change” than the US Constitution.


30 posted on 11/03/2013 12:11:01 PM PST by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: Signalman

“Let a thousand flowers bloom,” so we can cut their heads off. Nice predictable Marxism.


31 posted on 11/03/2013 12:12:18 PM PST by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: Signalman

We might just as easily be heading into a major glaciation period. Historical records show we are due for it if past patterns hold. It won’t be fun if we are.


32 posted on 11/03/2013 12:17:43 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Magnetic strength has been very weak this solar maximum. Sunspot numbers are all biased by who and how the counting is done. For example a sunspot number of 90 today actually translates to a number of 50 once corrected to accurately compare it to sunspot counts from over a hundred years ago. So we are still in a weak solar maximum. Perhaps the second peak or second group of spikes in sunspot formation. Sunspots are just an approximation for total solar activity levels.

Yes, perhaps a second peak of a weak solar max.

NOAA Sunspot Number

33 posted on 11/03/2013 12:22:29 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Signalman

34 posted on 11/03/2013 12:33:22 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You should read the novel, “Fallen Angels” (1991) Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Michael Flynn. I used to think it was science fiction. But as I get older it seems like it gets closer and closer to reality. Basically, its about what happens when the Greens take over the Government and bring about a real Ice Age.


35 posted on 11/03/2013 12:41:51 PM PST by rbg81
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To: berdie
That’s so 1970’s.

LOL, yep, I think they were saying this in 1975.

36 posted on 11/03/2013 12:48:10 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: Signalman
What??!!

Do you mean to tell me the author actually thinks that the sun is responsible for the temperature on earth? I mean, come on man - Sol is 93,000,000 miles away! How much can it possibly affect us?

37 posted on 11/03/2013 12:50:52 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Gen.Blather

Exactly well said.


38 posted on 11/03/2013 1:16:09 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Signalman
headed into a ‘little ice age?’

Luckily our DNA technology will soon be able to make mastodons.

39 posted on 11/03/2013 1:34:41 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: COBOL2Java

ROFL! Stolen!


40 posted on 11/03/2013 1:36:57 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Signalman; zot; SeraphimApprentice

Here we go with sun spots again. I say: If we just use the proper laundry detergent, those spots will go away when we wash the sun. There, problem solved.


41 posted on 11/03/2013 1:37:26 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: dhs12345

There is a conversation between two astronauts in Larry Niven’s book “Lucifer’s Hammer”. Are we warming or are we cooling? The other astronaut says we’re at risk of another ice age - and we’re running out of oil!
And the book was written in the 1970s.


42 posted on 11/03/2013 2:06:35 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Signalman

My first American ancestor moved from Jersey (Europe) to Early America and started successful farming during the worst of that time.


43 posted on 11/03/2013 2:48:08 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: tbw2

Lol. People profit from it. That is their motivation.


44 posted on 11/03/2013 5:11:50 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Signalman
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45 posted on 11/03/2013 7:07:06 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: FreeReign

Sunspots have been very active this month. . . . . .

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Well, not exactly, they have been “comparatively” active but considering that this is Solar Max iti s rather slow compared to the last 4 solar Max’s.

Many scientest consider the little ice age both the Maunder and Dalton Minimums. Personally I hope we aren’t going into a Maunder type minimum, that could cause some serious problems. Even the less severe Dalton Minimum caused Frost in July in the North East. The Dalton Minimum was one of the reasons for the great westward migration in the first half of the 19th century in the US. Farmers got fed up with having summertime frosts and decided to move to a warmer climate.

The Maunder Minimum is normally thought of to have started aproximately at the time of the Mayflour Pilgrims and lasted about a hundred years however, after only 50 years we were hit with the Dalton Minimum. The Dalton was not so deep as the Maunder but for places already in high latitudes it was enough to ruin crops and make years with no harvest.

We have a lot of people in the world to feed now, think if Europe, North Asia and Canada could not feed themselves. What would the polotical landscape look like in that senario?


46 posted on 11/04/2013 9:04:09 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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