Ithaca has only gotten worse...
Posted on 07/05/2013 9:20:56 PM PDT by MNDude
I've heard of race riots that took place back in the 1960's. I was wondering if anyone here is old enough to remember them, why they took place, and how bad they were?
Yes, we lived not far from the Armory, I recall National Guard patrolling with bayonets fixed. When Newark blew Plainfield followed suit.
In 1963, I rented on Magnolia St., near Plymouth Ave. The block I lived on had not yet been "busted", but a little further down the street toward the city the neighborhood had changed. That was a hot summer, and a lot of extremely offensive "music" was being played, and there was a lot of activity in the streets where it was becoming ghettoized. What I am saying is that 1963 was a prelude for the 1964 riots.
By 1964, my house in the Gates suburb was built, and living there I had joined the Gates-Chili (Volunteer) Fire Company. During the riots, the volunteer companies from the suburbs filled in at city fire companies that were out engaged in crowd control with 2 1/2 inch lines, water cannon, and the like.
When we were about to go in, the city company told us to make sure we brought every hydrant wrench we had, because we would need them to defend ourselves and our water lines from knifing. We already knew from listening to our scanners that a lot of things were happening that never got reported on the radio or papers. A lot of the seriousness got suppressed, I supposed so as not to exacerbate what was already going on.
If you recall, the community agitators were trying to put the blame for the rioting on two particular "causes" -- (1) claimed police brutality and (2) unfair hiring and promotion practices of Kodak and other large, highly technical manufacturers.
The increasing size of the ghetto areas in Rochester and other upstate cities was (IMHO) because Southern localities were unloading their welfare rolls by giving their indigents bus fare to northern cities so these neer-do-wells could get a better welfare income in the more liberal-minded states.
Rochester just could not handle the influx, and didn't know enough to send them back. 1964 was a hot, hot summer.
Now, I live in Delaware, just outside Wilmington, whose 1968 riots caused the city to be placed under martial law for several months. Nice place to retire to in these times, eh?
* The civil rights movement ceased being a righteous cause after 1964.
* The Gulf of Tonkin resolution came in 1965 and the start of the Vietnam War.
* The Great Society began in 1965.
* Mainline churches started to decline in 1965.
* The sexual revolution was starting to take off.
* The drug culture was starting to take off.
* The end of clean, wholesome popular movies
* There began to take hold a distrust of traditional authorities all across the board, on all levels of society.
The Tonkin Gulf resolution was actually passed in 1964, the year the Great Society was announced, but combat units didn't start arriving in Vietnam until 1965, shortly after the bombing campaign against North Vietnam began. The Great Society also began to be implemented in 1965, when the 89th Congress opened for business.
But 1965 wasn't all bad--The Los Angeles Dodgers won the World Series and Occidental College beat Pomona 21-6 on the football field.
Philadelphia mayor Frank Rizzo’s commitment to law and order contributed to the fact that with the exception of a riot in 1964, Philadelphia escaped major racial violence during the 1960’s..
In other words, "acting white."
I remember ol’ man Daley’s orders to police: shoot to kill arsonists, shoot to maim or wound looters
A friend of mine had an aunt who lived at around 95th Street and Figueroa, a few miles west of Watts, and right in the middle of the riot zone. He and his father and sister were preparing to drive their station wagon into the area, armed with rifles and pistols and with heavy planks to use in the windows as armor, and rescue her, but it turned out she was OK.
“In other words, “acting white.”
That line of thinking has done more harm to the black population than we realized. I don’t think the white community gets it at all.
Some years ago I was a PTA president when our school got a new principal who was black. As we were getting acquainted, she told me that she’d been teased growing up for ‘acting white,’ i.e., for reading, doing well in school, etc. To her surprise when she arrived at our (99% white) school, she met her childhood tormenters, who comprised the school’s janitorial staff.
Poetic justice can be sweet!
>>They screwed up race relations until the Muzzies came along to attack both sides.
It is worth noting that in April of 2001 there were significant race riots in Cincinnati. They were, of course, very poorly reported by the national media. They were covered very well here at Free Republic. I still have links into most of the threads, and even though they are early enough that they don’t show up here (or didn’t the last I looked), you can bring them up with the Wayback Machine.
Quick summary is that the police had shot a number of black men in a fairly short time frame, so the inner city blacks in Cincy rioted, engaged in looting and property destruction, attacked whites for being white, etc. Forget that upon a reasonable examination of the individual shootings, everyone almost invariably richly deserved it.
The media never really covered it, and of course it was almost completely forgotten after 9/11 of that year.
I believe you have a story about relatives controlling a bridge?
Ithaca has only gotten worse...
See my earlier post a few up about the Cincy riots of April 2001. Nothing like the scale of MLK or Rodney King, but there it is. Well after the fall of the Soviet Union.
Also, the sort of dispersed attacks on whites that Colin Flaherty documents could be seen as a sort of ongoing dispersed riot.
http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/
>>Not so good for others in the neighborhood, the main supermarket in the area burned down and they did not rebuild.
And then White Guilt Liberals get all worked up about “food deserts” in urban areas. Look it up.
He needs to be really heads up when the GZ verdict is rendered, if a NG or hung jury comes through.
Liberals, having to live within their own rules, will be removed from the gene-pool.
The problem is he won’t. He’s my formerly most sensible, most conservative offspring, but is currently going thru his (irrational) liberal phase. Nothing like a good riot, or getting beat up, to solve that, eh?
People who have businesses or homes in the area are getting smart by arming themselves rather than depending on the mercy of the rioters or police. In 1992, Hollytron in east Hollywood put people on the roof with rifles and no one came near the store.
yes,
The blacks didn’t get along with the Jewish biz owners and burned them out in 65.
In 92 the blacks didn’t get along with the Asian biz owners and attempted to burn them out...
In fact, the blacks don’t even get along with themselves and routinely kill each other on a daily basis.
A huge percentage of blacks have left SF, LA areas and headed eastbound, Ohio, PA, Texas, Georgia etc., in the past 15 years or so.
They have been replaced mostly by Hispanics and Asians...
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