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60's Race Riots?

Posted on 07/05/2013 9:20:56 PM PDT by MNDude

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To: MNDude

In the summer of 1967 I was eleven years old and living with my parents and siblings in Kearny, NJ., Newark was just about two miles to the west across the Passaic River. You could say I lived on Beaver Cleaver’s street. A peaceful, quiet ,tree-shaded street(Chestnut St.), until they had some sickness and were removed. We lived in a rambling 4 bedroom, two and a half bathroom beautiful Victorian home. White picket fence, milkman came around every morning with those cool bottles of milk, yup, it was as lily-white suburban as they came. And then on a hot July night the city of Newark exploded. I remember the grave concern of my Dad and the almost terrified look on my mothers face. Two young men, sons of our neighbors were in the National Guard and I remember seeing the two of them dash out of their parents home, in khakis , each carrying a web-belt that had a canteen on it and duffel bags. They had been called up. I was only 11 at the time and not really understanding what was going on. But the look of terror on my mothers face and those two young Guardsmen made me realize that this was something very serious. My Dad and Mom packed up some clothes for all of us(five boys, two girls), piled us into our ‘61 Valiant Station Wagon(with the ‘’Select-O-matic, push button transmission) and headed south to my aunts home in Belmar NJ, (on the Jersey Shore) and we stayed there for a week until it was okay to come back. The whole experience disturbed me. I didn’t understand what was happening and seeing my mother in the state she was in scared me. Funny how almost immediately after Johson signed the ‘’War on Poverty’’, Watts,in Los Angeles, Newark, Birmingham and other cities went up in flames. Boy, talk about stupid liberals and the law of unintended consequences. After over forty years now the city of Newark has never been the same. It has never fully recovered.


101 posted on 07/06/2013 4:10:11 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: circlecity

...and then the libs come back and insist on rebuilding their self-burned down neighborhoods rather than letting them suffer for their own decisions.


102 posted on 07/06/2013 4:23:54 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: MNDude

Nothing has changed. the media didn’t call them race riots then, and won’t now.
But they are race riots. And they’re not Chinese or Japanese doing the rioting.


103 posted on 07/06/2013 4:54:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: MNDude
Born in '52 and saw them first hand in Rochester, NY. Grew up in an increasing Black neighborhood and we considered each other to be friends and neighbors. A number of them changed and went "to the dark side" when it all began and started harassing us. Four incidents stand out:
- A 12 year old girls who played street ball with us kicked me in the butt and called me names.
- A new kid in town started a bit with me while playing on the street - I finally got tired of being elbowed and decked him. The other Black kids told Alvin to stop messing with Bobby. (some stayed sane)
- Driving with my great uncle and a crowd ahead had a car stopped and they were rocking it. They saw us coming and let it go and blocked our path. My uncle said some cuss words and told me to close my eyes if I didn't want to see blood as he stepped on the gas. They all managed to get clear and we were unmolested...
- My Dad was driving to the shooting range on a Sunday (we sometimes went there instead of church). We stopped at a light and a young Black man came to the window with a pen knife in his hand and told Dad to give him his wallet. Dad said OK, leaned to the right to allow access to the holster hanging between his hip and the door, pulled the .45 and told the guy that he really needed to change careers. I can still see the wide-open eyes and the hands up as he backed away and finally sat down as a heel hit the curb.

Rochester wasn't one of the worse places but it did serve as a sign of where we (they) were heading as they started striking out at the good citizens because of what the Dim politicians were doing. I believe that was the catalyst that put us where we are today - seemingly hopeless in removing racism because they were being heavily indoctrinated then. Once the race-baiters discovered how easy it was to get them rioting in the streets, it was game over.

104 posted on 07/06/2013 5:01:40 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: MNDude

I have a vague recollection of my mother being scared to death that the rioters in Augusta, Ga. were going to come to the suburbs. My father was in Vietnam. We were literally cowering in our house watching the news to see where the current riots were occurring.


105 posted on 07/06/2013 5:08:14 AM PDT by suthener
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To: jmacusa
I was born in 1950 and we were a world away from the riots and racial madness. We lived in a small farming and ranching community and the city of Big Spring TX revolved around the local air base. About half of the people in town either worked at the base are stationed there. We were very diverse ethnically, blacks, whites, hispanic’s, and quite a few from the mid east. We all went to the same schools, played on the same teams and streets, back yard bbq’s were the norm and everybody was invited. As kids we watched the riots on TV and couldn't believe nor understand what we saw, that just wasn't our world. As I look back and try to understand why we were so separated from this I can only think of two reasons. The military connection was a strong bond but it was really are family's that made it happen. We had strong stable family's with hard working fathers with most of the mothers staying at home and ruled the roost with an iron hand.

When high school was over most of the males went into the military, I choose the Army. A whole new world started to open up when I hit basic training with race starting to play more of a factor with peoples attitudes and I found it disturbing. I ended up with the 101st and was sent to Viet Nam in 1970, spent 11 moths on a muddy hill called FSB Bastogne right in the middle of the A Shau. It was back to what I had left in West TX, we were friends and we were brothers and we knew why we were there. 11 months later I was wounded and shipped out and officially discharged in 72. When I got back home I went to work for the Sheriff's department and it became quite clear this was not my little town I remembered. Crime rates were up racial separation was becoming more clearly defined and racial conflict were starting to show. The fathers of black family's were no longer present, low income housing was being built and slowly the blacks moved to a certain area of town and that area became more and more crime ridden.

The base has long been shut down and we now have 4 prisons to take it's place. Family's are moving in to be closer to their husbands, boy friends in prison and they bring their problems with them. We now have black gangs, hispanic gangs, aryan gangs and the drugs and crime that goes with it, it's a truly sad state. I miss my little West Texas town!

106 posted on 07/06/2013 5:19:26 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Smokin' Joe; circlecity

“Stay away from ghetto-ville and you’ll be all right.”

In Mobile, Al., there are many “getto-villes”, but you can’t get away from all of them. The all knowing politicians have seen to that. I live is a very middle class, decent neighborhood. My next door neighbor is a section 8 apartment complex that runs about 90% black. You cannot get away from that here. The area that I live in is probably 70% white ( in a town that is 50-50 overall). I expect to be under siege from that 30% should race riots actually happen.


107 posted on 07/06/2013 5:20:38 AM PDT by suthener
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To: hinckley buzzard

In the summer of 1966 I was part of a church project to go in-town to the Hough “ghetto” (that’s what it was called then) to set up children’s playgrounds on abandoned lots where the “tenements” had been torn down. When the Hough riot broke out, we were asked to stay there (with protection) to try to keep things calm. I will never forget the black women who came down to the street and told us that if trouble was heading our way, come up to that apartment (as they pointed it out) and they would hide us. They were wonderful people.

The protection ended up as military jeeps with 50-cal machine guns.

Two years later (summer,1968) I was working as the only night man in a gas station near downtown Cleveland to earn money for university (Michigan... lost a lot of Ohio friends by doing that!). Selling gas in cans had been banned (for obvious reasons). One night during those riots, some “folks” came in and demanded that I fill some emergency cans with gasoline. I (22 years old) told them I could not. They then got a bit threatening and I was not too sure if I would make it through the night.

Fortunately, I had been letting Cleveland cops sleep around the side of the gas station, and they made the mistake of waking the cop who was back there up. That is probably why I am still alive.

Hough was more-or-less spontaneous. Glenville was planned.


108 posted on 07/06/2013 5:23:03 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: MNDude

One of my friend’s father owned a dry cleaning store in New Haven, CT. During the riots that took place there in the late 1960’s, the plate glass window in the front of the store was broken by the rioters. My friend’s father replaced the glass only to have it broken the same day, again by rioters. So he packed up the family, moved to the suburbs, and open another store no where near New Haven. Many other businesses did likewise.

Basically, the race riots caused many businesses to leave downtown New Haven and made many of the people living in the surrounding towns avoid the city as much as possible. Crime rates rose, undesirables moved in and the city, IMHO, never recovered.


109 posted on 07/06/2013 5:23:24 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: MNDude

I was 10 years old in 1968, that was a bad year. The riots were bad, Detroit, Newark, NJ, some parts of Brooklyn have never really recovered from them, even to this day.

And the 70s were bad too, pretty much the entire country was on drugs. Watch some of the old “Matchgame” shows on Game Show Network to see how it was when everybody was coked up.


110 posted on 07/06/2013 5:31:06 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Argus

Ok, I’m intrigued, South Plainfield here but work in Plainfield every day. I love the history and the old buildings on Front St and on W 8th. Were you there for the riots?


111 posted on 07/06/2013 5:33:28 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: jocon307

Not the 60’s but one of my friends would sit in his boat in Biscayne Bay and watch Liberty City burn in the 70’s. Liberty City is well-known for rioting. And it just happens to be in Miami.


112 posted on 07/06/2013 5:36:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: laplata

Like so many of us did. I wasn’t a racist until then.


113 posted on 07/06/2013 5:57:06 AM PDT by x1stcav (Federal employees are parasites.)
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To: MistrX
I was 11 years old living in a small town about 150 miles from Detroit and remember all the men cleaning and loading their long guns.

From C. Heston:

  "Most people in the film community are unfamiliar with firearms 
  and many oppose them, some quite virulently," Heston wrote. "During
  the L.A. riots in 1992, a good many of these folk suffered a change
  of heart. As smoke from burning buildings smudged the skyline
  and the TV news showed vivid images of laughing looters smashing
  windows and carting off boomboxes and booze, I got a few phone 
  calls from firmly anti-gun friends in clear conflict. 'Umm, Chuck,
  you have quite a few . . . ah, guns, don't you?'

 'Yes, I do.'

 'Shotguns and . . . like that?'

 'Indeed.'

 'Could you lend me one for a day or so? I tried to buy one, but
  they have this waiting period . . . '


114 posted on 07/06/2013 6:45:49 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: MNDude

also i believe after reading some of the posts that they were started by the white and black socialists. Mantra of burn baby burn (Eldridge Cleaver?)as the great society wasn’t getting enough of white man’s money. whites and jews all moved out after that.


115 posted on 07/06/2013 8:42:38 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: MNDude
I've heard of race riots that took place back in the 1960's. I was wondering if anyone here is old enough to remember them, why they took place, and how bad they were?

There was a riot in my town in either '69 or '70. I must've been only four or five years old, but I remember it all very well because my family lived on the main road through town. After the riots, that town turned into a ghost town overnight; many businesses closed down and pulled out. A few doors down from our house, though, a new business opened - a gun shop.

When I grew older, my father explained that the riot erupted after a man was killed on the street by the Warlocks, who'd been terrorizing everyone in town. Riots. Warlocks. Strange times indeed.

Then again, all times are strange. As a child, I also remember men in hardhats filling the street on a union march, while most of the neighborhood hid inside their homes. But, three generations of my family lived on that street, beginning in the early 1900's. And my oldest relatives remembered hiding in their homes as children when the Klan marched through with torches to protest the immigrants living there.

The world has always been a weird place. I think it's getting even weirder now, though.

116 posted on 07/06/2013 8:50:55 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: JennysCool; 2ndDivisionVet
Believe it or not, people were much more civilized back then, even the rioters.
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No matter how many posts are made to this thread, this one's the truest.


And a very hearty AMEN to that !

Given the tacit cheerleading of that racist muzi maggot Ø, if things kick off following GZ/TM (regardless the verdict), urban civil order is likely to evaporate for awhile.

Anyone unarmed near a city is being VERY foolish, imho.

One could easily list many things worse than a no-limit open season on thug rioters . . .

117 posted on 07/06/2013 9:05:23 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: MNDude

I was living in Cleveland, Ohio during that time and I could hear the gunfire from my front porch. When I asked a Police officer friend about it he said that things calmed down quickly when the police brought in the 50 cal. mounted guns.

Parts of the black neighborhoods looked like Berlin after the war.


118 posted on 07/06/2013 9:08:13 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Sigurdrifta

I remember the Hough riots quite well. Those 50 cal guns calmed things down quite nicely.


119 posted on 07/06/2013 9:11:42 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: x1stcav

That’s right. I understand.


120 posted on 07/06/2013 9:16:16 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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