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Boy Scouts Remain Adamant About 'Duty To God'
newsmax ^ | Sandy Fitzgerald

Posted on 06/01/2013 7:56:59 PM PDT by Morgana

The Boy Scouts of America will likely continue banning atheists and other non-believers from their troops, even though it now accepts openly gay members among its ranks.

"I don't see that happening, at least not in the immediate future," said Neil Polzin, an Eagle Scout fired from his job in 2009 as a Boy Scout camp aquatics director, after he admitted he is an atheist.

"The focus has always been on the Scouts' discrimination against gays and it seems atheists were always on a back burner or not discussed at all," Polzin told The Christian Century.

Since May 23, when the Scouts voted to allow gay members – but not troop leaders – among their ranks, major organizations for nonbelievers have condemned their continuing exclusion from the organization.

Part of the Scouting oath is to "do my duty to God and my country," which many atheists prefer be changed to "good and my country," a request the BSA has refused.

In addition, some atheist children have been asked to leave troops after it was revealed they did not believe in God. There have been lawsuits filed, but the Supreme Court has ruled that the Boy Scouts is a private organization that can make its own membership rules.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes
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My big ol' butt!!
1 posted on 06/01/2013 7:56:59 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

You cannot serve two masters. If you are with Christ, then stand with Christ. Duh!


2 posted on 06/01/2013 7:59:36 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Morgana

Duty to a god....take your pick.


3 posted on 06/01/2013 8:03:12 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Morgana

the way the bsa have gone to shit do my duty takes on a whole new meaning here


4 posted on 06/01/2013 8:04:00 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Morgana

“good and my country,”

Yeah, except what is good? Just an opinion.

The boyscouts are pathetic. They threw any duty to God off a cliff when they approved of perverted behavior.


5 posted on 06/01/2013 8:07:16 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: bigheadfred

Waiting for the Sandra Flukes of the world ti infiltrate


6 posted on 06/01/2013 8:07:26 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Morgana

They are teaching children Satanic Ethics by “accepting” openly homosexual kids.

They are normalizing muslim ethics where boys are in harems and forces kids to take “Pride” in a Vice. It is evil/brainwashing/conditioning.

They are forcing Evil to be a Good—rewriting the Bible.

it is deliberately MOCKING the “God” they claim they have a “duty” to....

The group will end up just like the Boy Scout group of Germany where the orgies in the woods led to the “Hitler (homo) Youth” and the homosexual Brownshirts. A total ejection of God and worship of the occult (Satan).


7 posted on 06/01/2013 8:08:30 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Morgana

So, wonder what happens when a muslim joins...


8 posted on 06/01/2013 8:08:34 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Morgana

BULLstuff.

The bsa surrendered to the gaystapo.
They will continue to surrender to whoever demands is.
Blood in the water.
They are done.
As are we.
See ya, bsa.

done.


9 posted on 06/01/2013 8:08:46 PM PDT by Texas resident (Watch the other hand.)
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To: Morgana
"I don't see that happening, at least not in the immediate future," said Neil Polzin, an Eagle Scout fired from his job in 2009 as a Boy Scout camp aquatics director, after he admitted he is an atheist.

Now that the pervs have gotten their way, Mr. Polzin can rest easy knowing that his particular grievance will be bowed to within the next year or two, tops.

10 posted on 06/01/2013 8:10:47 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Morgana

I don’t see many gays joining the BSA.


11 posted on 06/01/2013 8:11:28 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Morgana

Disband the BSA


12 posted on 06/01/2013 8:13:59 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: workerbee

Mr. Polzin, like the homosexuals should just keep their big mouth shut. Maybe he never figured it was no one’s business? Had he kept his mouth closed he’d still be in the scouts.


13 posted on 06/01/2013 8:14:08 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

The BSA is chartered by Congress in the US Code as a Patriotic organization. Scrub them from the Code. What they’ve done violates the law.


14 posted on 06/01/2013 8:16:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans.' -- Job 5:12)
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To: Morgana

I can’t imagine sending any child into a situation where you know that the kid is only there because of lawsuits and legal intimidation and technicalities, and that all the other kids are aware of this. The tormenting that kid will receive will be relentless X 100. I cannot imagine anyone who pledges to genuinely care about our kids, straight or gay, would support this.

As for the Boy Scouts, I hope they can find a way in the future to survive solely on private funding and donation and thrive free market capitalist style and demonstrate their ability to thrive capitalist style. Then they can tell anyone who objects to their G-dly values to play in rush hour traffic.


15 posted on 06/01/2013 8:23:09 PM PDT by technobash
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To: savagesusie

Your Third Reich references are accurate and apropos.

I am amazed the Scouts approve of homosexual scouts but not agnostic or atheistic scouts.

IMHO, theological discussions and such intellectual interplay is far less damaging that homosexual interactions. But, not my children so -——

Those who theorize about providing good role models to homosexual scouts are correct about the impact of ‘influences’. The question is - who influences whom?


16 posted on 06/01/2013 8:24:40 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Morgana

I was in the Scouts in the 1970s and back then we had gay kids in our troop, it was obvious even though I was 12 at the time. The difference was we didn’t focus on it. The problem today is the fascists are demanding the kids DO focus on it. What for? When I was a kid it was “Bobby is a little different” and that was as far as it got. What the liberal fascists are doing today though is the exact opposite of what they say they are doing: They are demanding prejudice.


17 posted on 06/01/2013 8:24:45 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Morgana

BSA just chose against God’s (Judeo=Christian) moral code.

They can’t now claim to still follow Him.

(they’re obviously following Obama instead....)


18 posted on 06/01/2013 8:28:43 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Morgana

Can’t have it both ways, boys.

Choose.


19 posted on 06/01/2013 8:29:50 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (The Cardinals chose wisely.)
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To: Mamzelle

No.


20 posted on 06/01/2013 8:30:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Morgana

Sure...
Whatever...


21 posted on 06/01/2013 8:41:07 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: Morgana

The BSA caved like cowards. They’re a disgrace to everything they once stood for. A disgrace to God and country. I have nothing but abject contempt for the entire organization and anyone remaining associated with it.


22 posted on 06/01/2013 8:45:42 PM PDT by greene66
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To: savagesusie

I attended an Eagle Court of Honor today and my faith in the BSA has been strengthened. It was very moving. The young man who received his Eagle Scout award is just a wonderful kid! There were about 7 men in the Eagle’s Nest. Now this was pretty much a LDS event. I see how the LDS Church will continue to support the BSA and if others want to drop out so be it. “Morally straight!”

Had a discussion with some of the Scout leaders; they don’t even give the controversy a second thought; they keep busy serving the boys and their families.


23 posted on 06/01/2013 8:57:04 PM PDT by District13 (I miss my country!)
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To: District13

Just asking, how many LDS “morally straight” men join the US Military?


24 posted on 06/01/2013 9:01:15 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: greene66

“I have nothing but abject contempt for the entire organization and anyone remaining associated with it.”

That is sad. I was feeling pretty down about the controversy but today I attended an Eagle Court of Honor and my love and respect for BSA and LDS has been restored.


25 posted on 06/01/2013 9:01:22 PM PDT by District13 (I miss my country!)
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To: Morgana
...will likely continue banning atheists...
"I don't see that happening, at least not in the immediate future"

Oh, anything is possible. It was less than a year ago the Boy Scouts slammed the door on homos and said the issue was settled. Uh... not so fast. It turns out they lied.

The Boy Scouts have zero credibility. The Boy Scouts are dead to me. Screw them.

26 posted on 06/01/2013 9:03:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: laplata

Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems you are ok with BSA & their homo agenda, no?


27 posted on 06/01/2013 9:03:43 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

You see what you want to see. You equate actions with predisposition. Boy Scouts of all ages should be celibate so where sexuality is concerned “Duty to God” should be a non-issue.


28 posted on 06/01/2013 9:05:44 PM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Correct me if I’m wrong but it seems you are ok with BSA & their homo agenda, no?


You are wrong, smart ass. I simply made a statement.

I will say you can K M A.


29 posted on 06/01/2013 9:10:15 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: chris37

Where’ve you been? They just changed the rules to accept them.


30 posted on 06/01/2013 9:10:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: District13

Next time the LDS do their missionary knocking on doors They will get a GFY instead of a glad hand shake.


31 posted on 06/01/2013 9:14:13 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

GFY, too.


32 posted on 06/01/2013 9:18:16 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Morgana
Save your PR time and money, BSA, nobody’s listening anymore.

You used to be one of the most respected, relevant, and necessary institutions America ever had. You threw that away, not those who trusted you. Now beat it.

33 posted on 06/01/2013 9:22:38 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: EternalVigilance
14 The BSA is chartered by Congress in the US Code as a Patriotic organization. Scrub them from the Code. What they’ve done violates the law.

The House Congressional committee responsible for issuing charters disbanded in 1992. Apparently even back then, matters were getting contentious.

34 posted on 06/01/2013 9:23:36 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MichaelCorleone

You used to be one of the most respected, relevant, and necessary institutions America ever had. You threw that away, not those who trusted you. Now beat it.


I feel sorry for the young men in the BSA.


35 posted on 06/01/2013 9:25:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Morgana

1. Past “always’s” mean squat today.

2. BSA has now caved. They will keep caving.

3. There will be gay scoutmasters as they have “compromised” into an idiotic position that is not logically defendable and is on its face hypocritical. You cannot have gay be ok for 17-old eagle scouts and when they turn 18, they’re out and can’t be scoutmasters. They aren’t not a threat one day, and then a threat because they hit a particular birthday.

4. They are no longer morally straight. They have abandoned their duty to God.

5. They are open season on their atheist position. It will take five years or sooner before this goes down.


36 posted on 06/01/2013 9:27:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: laplata

So you support a “church” that used to support the oath of “morally strait”?


37 posted on 06/01/2013 9:29:30 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: laplata
I feel sorry for the young men in the BSA.

So you want them to approve of Sodomites?

38 posted on 06/01/2013 9:35:38 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Lol :)


39 posted on 06/01/2013 9:40:34 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I feel sorry for the young men in the BSA
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So you want them to approve of Sodomites?


I feel sorry for them for having been subjected to the sodomites.

I don’t see any concern from you toward the young men in BSA. I see self absorbed piety. You’re a pious one.


40 posted on 06/01/2013 9:50:57 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Really? So the LDS should support Sodomites?


41 posted on 06/01/2013 9:52:19 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It’s none of your business. Maybe I do, maybe I don’t. LOL


42 posted on 06/01/2013 9:54:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata
I feel sorry for the young men in the BSA.
43 posted on 06/01/2013 9:56:17 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I feel sorry for the young men in the BSA.


Good for you. You should have some sympathy for them.


44 posted on 06/01/2013 9:58:09 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

So you’re a pro Sodomite BSA Supporter?


45 posted on 06/01/2013 9:58:44 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I support the Boy Scouts.


46 posted on 06/01/2013 10:01:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: windsorknot

Their “God” is their corporate sponsors.


47 posted on 06/01/2013 10:02:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: laplata
I support the Boy Scouts.

You support the "gay" scouts.

48 posted on 06/01/2013 10:03:53 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I support the Boy Scouts.

You support the “gay” scouts.


I can see you walking up to a 14 year old Boy Scout and calling him a sodomite. I bet you would.


49 posted on 06/01/2013 10:07:24 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Thanks for confirming you supporting the gay scouts.


50 posted on 06/01/2013 10:14:43 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (0bama called in the Marines to hold his umbrella but wouldn't to protect our ambassador in Benghazi)
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