Posted on 05/24/2013 1:13:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai
“Uh....why is it even necessary to engage in such a thought exercise?”
I’m still thinking about your comment. I remember in one of Thomas Sowell’s books, in the chapter on brainwashing in our schools, he mentions the “lifeboat problem”, where you have a lifeboat that holds 10 people, but 11 people need to be rescued. How do you decide which person to leave behind? Easy answer - you deal with the situation when you come to it (which is never, since you’re 100 times more likely to win the lottery).
I read some stuff on Hitler and by 1937, when Kennedy showed has admiration for him, he well into making life miserable for the Jews - there was no reason to admire him and say he was perfect for Germany.
Jews in America circa 1930s were not that well loved;matter of fact,all non WASP were viewed poorly.
Remember the question of having a “Catholic” President who would simply do whatever the Pope told him was a real concern for many in 1960.
Agree. They used to have “Jewish Quotas” at upscale universities, where they limited the amount of Jews admitted. It was a sickening relic of the past. Thankfully we’re beyond that...that is unless you’re an Asian trying to get into Cal or UCLA.
Not a JFK fan. He was a very mediocre POTUS. But these writings are from his 20’s and he spent part of his Grand Tour in the company of his father. Many young people, especially back in the 30s, were very influenced by their parents.
Why is it a shock that a privileged youth whose family was eager to overcome both their origins and the source of their wealth is parroting his father’s well-known views in favor of fascism vs. communism?
This wasn’t an extreme POV at the time. IIRC, Great Britain’s factories were supplying materiel to Germany that would soon be used to bombard their own country.
There were German Bundhalls in places like Thiensville, WI, outside Milwaukee. One famously had a mosaic swastika inlaid into its floor.
Like his father Joe, so too did JFK see the bright shining future of Nazi Germany under Adolph Hitler. Maybe he was hoping to get a new VW from der Fuhrer.
I think that the Left luvs Islam because its adherents will do absolutely anything they’re told. After all, if you can convince someone to be a suicide bomber, then convincing them to pay higher taxes should be a piece of cake.
The Left hates free thinking, independent people who don’t NEED (or WANT) their “solutions”. So the best way to make them irrelevant is to import Muslims by the millions.
Yes as I remember ole Joe came close to treason and got called back to the states somewhat disgraced.
Dems ,, Epic Fail,, Then, Now..
In a post after this one, you mention the lifeboat problem, where the chances of facing that ordeal are 100 times less likely than winning a lottery jackpot. Even bothering to choose between those two evils (basically choosing between Satan and . . . Satan again) is to assume in one’s mind that the USA did not exist and only fascism and communism did.
Knowing that engineers overdesign by nature and also to cover their arse from litigation... I’d know that a lifeboat rated for ten people was actually designed to hold more weight than its rating will state... if it was made in the USA, where lawyers are abundant.
:-p
No doubt true, depending on the weather and size of the people, etc.
However, it remains a fact that for any small boat, at some point one additional passenger will sink it.
So at that point you really do have a choice between tossing one person overboard or preventing him/her from getting on board, or having everybody die.
IOW, is it better to lose one life or eleven?
I think it is a reasonable question to ask and a valid way of discussing ethical issues. Though I understand it is mostly used in schools and such to break down student’s parentally-taught “prejudices.”
Personally, I’d throw the whiny liberals overboard.
And one of JFK’s relatives returned from a trip to the USSR and said, “I have seen the future and it works.” Thanks Olog-hai.
Epic fail.
But hardly a shock given how his daddy felt.
He was also banging a possible while serving during the war, Hitler may have banged the same woman, Danish journalist Inga Arvad.
I agree though, his friendliness towards fascism is seemingly out of the blue but it makes sense when you think about it, since his daddy was a NAZI sympathizer.
Really not hard to explain Ted Kennedy (and all of JFK's siblings for that matter) being far-left socialists either.. libreals may pretend Hitler was right-wing, but there's a lot of overlap between NAZI beliefs and liberal Dems on numerous issues (universal health care and free abortions on demand, guaranteed education for everyone, etc.)
When fascism first came about it was regarded as “left”.
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/06/12/socialist_or_fascist/page/full
Mussolini of course had been a socialist. And “Nazi” has “socialist” in the damn name!
” Government ownership of the means of production means that politicians also own the consequences of their policies, and have to face responsibility when those consequences are disastrous — something that Barack Obama avoids like the plague.
Thus the Obama administration can arbitrarily force insurance companies to cover the children of their customers until the children are 26 years old. Obviously, this creates favorable publicity for President Obama. But if this and other government edicts cause insurance premiums to rise, then that is something that can be blamed on the “greed” of the insurance companies. “
Great job by Tom Sowell. Why OWN the means of production, when you can CONTROL it, and when things go awy, blame the opposition?
That is certainly how Dems need it to play out and almost half the disapproval of it is those who think it doesnt go far enough.
Obama put all those freebees up front in his election year 2012 and the resulting rising premium costs could be claimed to be ‘why we need the affordable health care act more than ever’, so it was a good move for him foe election.
Now next year it really hits the fan with the really destructive stuff and yes Dems will be blaming Sequester and GOP for all the Obamacare caused ills.
The best thing the GOP can do is provide regular and accurate specific detailed examples of what Obama-care is doing to our insurance, like a tuitorial, rather than repeating all the generalizations they been using for years.
” The best thing the GOP can do is provide regular and accurate specific detailed examples of what Obama-care is doing to our insurance, like a tuitorial, rather than repeating all the generalizations they been using for years. “
Correct, as usual.
Pastor Bonhoeffer already had Hitler pegged by January of 1933... technically even earlier in 1932 when the Nazis were trying to manipulate church elections in order to take over.
... And he also witnessed the rot of the American left by 1931 when he visited the hollow farce known as the Riverside Church.
Yes, but that objection was not merely to a "Catholic" President with no baggage, it was to a "Catholic" President very much attached to his family whose daddy had been fond of Hitler. I have little doubt that JFK supporters - like Obama supporters today - preferred to claim and teach that all opposition was religious prejudice rather than cautionary, based also or only on his family history.
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