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Multiple Obama Birth Certificates Surface In Alabama Eligibility Case
freedom outpost ^ | May 1, 2013 | Tim Brown

Posted on 05/01/2013 8:11:44 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

The Alabama Democrat Party just submitted a completely different birth certificate than the one that was posted at the White House website in 2011.

Larry Klayman, the plaintiff’s counsel submitted the forgery of Barack Hussein Obama’s birth certificate that was posted to whitehouse.gov on 4-27-2001 (seen below). Fogbow/Jack Ryan obot group produced another bogus one. Still a third birth certificate has been submitted by Alabama Democrats to the Supreme Court.

Remember, this court is being presided over by Chief Justice Roy Moore, who supported Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, when he believed Obama to be a usurper and denied following orders to deploy to Iraq until Obama proved his eligibility as part of keeping his oath (ironically Lakin was not supported by Mr. Oathkeeper Stewart Rhodes). Another justice on the court by the name of Tom Parker will also hear the case. He has stated in a previous case:

“McInnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition, which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the “short form” and the “long form” birth certificates of President Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public.”

While the Alabama Democrats attacked the merits of the appeal, calling the evidence by McInnish “inadmissible and not worthy of belief,” they also stated “A county sheriff from Arizona is not an ‘official source’ of anything in Alabama.”

But what stands out in their brief is something very new, Barack Hussein Obama’s long form birth certificate that has a different backing, something never before seen. It’s on page 33 in the document below.

(Excerpt) Read more at freedomoutpost.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
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To: EXCH54FE

““birther issue.” It’s not. It’s a criminal issue. It’s a national security issue.”

True, but no one in the Fedgov with the authority to do anything about this gives a rat’s ass about the rule of law and the Constitution anymore.


61 posted on 05/01/2013 10:33:18 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Arpaio is a liar or he isn’t. And I know what side I’m on. Fellow ‘birthers’ should consider the above when encountering naysayers on conservative websites.

Norm, Arpaio himself might or might not be a liar. Maybe he just put his trust in the wrong people.

As to whether the people influencing and running his Cold Case Posse investigation are liars, that seems to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

62 posted on 05/01/2013 10:44:41 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Windflier

What a beautiful picture!...Thank you so much for lifting my spirits!!!


63 posted on 05/01/2013 10:46:28 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Jeff Winston

Of course. Arpaio is so old and feeble he would fall for that in a heartbeat....

Ana all the independent people that have contributed data all made it up because they were in on it. Probably a Zionist plot.


64 posted on 05/01/2013 10:48:40 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Hey, read the article.

If the evidence isn’t convincing, then don’t believe it.

Of course you won’t anyway. Because if you were actually interested in the evidence, you wouldn’t be a birther in the first place.


65 posted on 05/01/2013 10:55:09 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston

I have read more on this subject than most and was convinced a long time ago. If you want to do something different, do that.


66 posted on 05/01/2013 10:56:55 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: EXCH54FE

Nothing will come of this boys and girls.Regardless of how legitimate these accusations may be it will go nowhere.There’s not a court in the land (including SCOTUS) that will touch it.And even if the House attempts to impeach(and succeeds) the Senate will just chuckle.And the MSM won’t touch it.


67 posted on 05/01/2013 10:57:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I have read more on this subject than most and was convinced a long time ago.

That isn't surprising to me. I think pretty much all birthers made their minds up long ago.

68 posted on 05/01/2013 12:26:15 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: alancarp
This is where Orly comes in to play.

Orly Taitz has been successful at obfuscating the real issue, that Obama's father was never a US citizen, and therefore Obama can not be a Natural Born US Citizen. She has done more to define what the average, uninformed, person considers as a 'birther', and that being someone who believes Obama was not born in Hawaii, than anyone else on the planet. It's classic disinformation.
69 posted on 05/01/2013 12:46:06 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

I disagree. Orly Taitz is not the world’s greatest lawyer, she has been sanctioned too many times and she is terrible at properly serving subpoenas but she truly believes her point of view. And she keeps eligibility in the public arena.
Both the fake birth certificate and the two citizen parent theories have failed to impress judges.


Tisdale v Obama, US District Court Judge John A. Gibney, Jr.: “It is well settled that those born within the United States are natural born citizens.”— US District Court of the Eastern District of Virginia, January 23, 2012.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/82011399/Tisdale-v-Obama-EDVA-3-12-cv-00036-Doc-2-ORDER-23-Jan-2012

Purpura & Moran v Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo

Attacking a constitutional issue on two fronts is not bad legal strategy.


70 posted on 05/01/2013 12:56:01 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
What a beautiful picture!

I agree! I think it's Barry's best shot.

71 posted on 05/01/2013 2:09:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nero Germanicus
The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law.

That pretty well sums up the Constitutional argument.

The astonishing thing is that you have people who continue to push this meritless theory for all it's worth, making literally dozens of fallacious arguments to try and convince people it's true.

It's like publicly trying to convince people that the Hamburglar is a real, live person.

72 posted on 05/01/2013 2:21:07 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston; Norm Lenhart
"I have read more on this subject than most and was convinced a long time ago."

That isn't surprising to me. I think pretty much all birthers made their minds up long ago.

Anything to protect and defend your boy, Obama, eh Winston? I swear, you are just shameless in knocking anyone who dares to challenge His Heinous' right to sit on the throne.

Have you even bothered to comment on the fact that the Alabama court has three different Obama birth certificates in front of it? If you did, I didn't notice.

I'm aware that you believe a goat produced from a tree graft in Argentina is eligible to hold the office of President, but what's your opinion on the topic at hand?

73 posted on 05/01/2013 2:31:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I sinned Windy. I made a decision based on evidence and did not comply when some lib on the internet told me to lie to myself.

Funny that he came out of the woodwork when a logical question was posed that the Obama backers have a hard time with... and attacked one of the most trusted men in America today as a doddering old fool that does not know what his staff is doing...ain’t it?


74 posted on 05/01/2013 2:38:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jeff Winston
What evidence?

All we have is a string of dissembling waffle from the Dem run GOP-e puppets in Hawaii and a ever increasing chain of hilarious FUDDY’s.

My personal favorite FUDDY is the Aug. 2008 “Fact-Check” COLB with the raised Seal writing mirror imaged from the correct form.

Tut Tut, that should be *readable* English letters when you view the raised side. NOT mirror writing on the raised side.

75 posted on 05/01/2013 2:54:09 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: Windflier
Have you even bothered to comment on the fact that the Alabama court has three different Obama birth certificates in front of it? If you did, I didn't notice.

No, I haven't. If you think you can prove Obama's birth certificate is a forgery, knock yourself out.

If you want my opinion, I think that particular theory is just as much BS as the Constitutional one. But hey, knock yourself out.

76 posted on 05/01/2013 3:05:31 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Exmil_UK
What evidence?

The evidence I referred to was evidence that Arpaio's cold case posse did a fraud.

That looks pretty clear to me.

77 posted on 05/01/2013 3:07:38 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: SvenMagnussen

“The individual can object to the tax assessment on the basis the law was signed by a usurper and does not apply to them because they object to laws signed by the usurper. The law remains ineffect for everyone else, but the IRS cannot tax the individual who formally objects after an assessment.”

Freepers:

Don’t try this at home.

Seizethecarp CPA CFE


78 posted on 05/01/2013 3:23:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Norm Lenhart; X-spurt; Old Sarge; Kenny Bunk; MHGinTN; Fantasywriter; Jeff Winston; wintertime; ...
Funny that he came out of the woodwork when a logical question was posed that the Obama backers have a hard time with... and attacked one of the most trusted men in America today as a doddering old fool that does not know what his staff is doing...ain’t it?

I would normally raise an eyebrow at such a thing, but this one's been busily tearing down anyone who dares to breathe the words, ineligibility and Obama, in the same sentence for months. Maybe years.

I asked him a multiple choice question about the fundamental aspects of presidential eligibility about a month back. It was:

"What circumstance of birth would most likely be considered by those framing a new government to produce a citizen that could be most trusted to bear unwavering loyalty to the new nation and its people?"

I then listed out perhaps five of the most common combinations from which to choose. Only one of those combinations could possibly be the correct answer (born on the soil to two citizen parents).

He dodged answering for several posts before finally telling me that he, "hadn't really thought about it" or some such malarkey. This, after posting tens of thousands of words on this website, defending Der Fuhrer's divine right to rule over America.

Oh, and this'll really tickle you. Seems the folks at Fogbow.com reallllly love Jeff. They're over there whooping it up about the severe ass whooping he's dishing out on the Freepers:

http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2149&start=3175

I've pinged everyone who's name shows up in that thread.

79 posted on 05/01/2013 3:29:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jeff Winston
Both parties refer to stuff the general public can't get their hands on.

The numbers in the margin stuff was never interesting to me because there are just too many possible alternative explanations. Single digits without a definite field are just vague.

I have know idea who is right about about those, you and the posse could be wrong and there could be a third explanation.

Using a “raised seal” with the English readable text on the depressed-in side of the seal is a total FUBAR that any jury can see, once it is explained what to look for.

Show the same jury the pencil numbers floating at the side of the 2011 LFBC FUDDY and they will just fall asleep.

The Typesetting evidence and the typewritten words that never seem to be on the same line are damning evidence, if you have a jury who are old enough to have used typewriters.
The floaty pencil numbers not so much.

80 posted on 05/01/2013 3:31:43 PM PDT by Exmil_UK
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