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To: Renfield

I read the whole thing. I did not intend to do that this early in the morning.

After looking at the credentials of the authors and looking up the definition/meaning of the term “biosemiotics”, heretofore not in my lexicon, I thought that this was going to be environmentalist wacko crap, pure BS.

I speak with authority as one who has joyfully sprayed gallons of Roundup over everything green that I wanted to be dead and gone. So an attack on my favorite herbicide was worth examining.

Still, there are unexplained things going on, such as the literal explosion in autism, c-diff infections, bee colony collapse, etc., so I plowed on. By page 15, they had my attention.

They had a tough case to make, over a tremendously broad spectrum of variables, but they did a good job. They tied numerous tendrils of unexplained smoke together to raise the legitimate issue of fire.

The authors are not demanding that glyphosate be banned, but they do make a compelling case that many of the biologically negative things going on may have this common link and it should be examined for causation.

I agree. I also may rethink my skepticism over organically grown food.


13 posted on 04/27/2013 4:13:26 AM PDT by Ron/GA
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To: Ron/GA

Nice recap - thanks Ron.


15 posted on 04/27/2013 4:54:25 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Ron/GA
Take a giant pot, throw in some motor oil, gasoline, transmission fluid, windshield wiper fluid, round-up, herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers, various household cleaners including ammonia, bleach and other stuff that have warnings to avoid contact with skin or breathing the vapors then fill it with water.

Voila, your typical drainage system or runoff ditch that empties into a local river, stream or lake.........

With all that crap, I can't help but think that many illnesses just might be caused by these combined agents.........

23 posted on 04/27/2013 5:49:04 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Ron/GA
Thanks for the effort and an honest input.

I just used Roundup myself yesterday...in my garden.

25 posted on 04/27/2013 6:02:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: Ron/GA

Thank you.


34 posted on 04/27/2013 6:40:24 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Ron/GA

Except that the bees are getting a fungus, not roundup.

The autism issue is interesting, but a lot of it has to do with a broader definitions and that schools get more funding for “special needs” kids (trust me, that drives some of it).


35 posted on 04/27/2013 6:43:54 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Ron/GA

Thanks for that information!


36 posted on 04/27/2013 6:50:28 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: Ron/GA

Perhaps banning Roundup will save as many lives as banning DDT...


40 posted on 04/27/2013 7:20:08 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Ron/GA

Thanks for a thoughtful comment, but please let me point out that virtually all food is “organic.” Including the worms.

Much of the “organic” movement is money-grabbing crap.

Actually, crap is organic, too.

If you are truly concerned, just grow your own food. On a small scale, it’s entirely possible to produce fine vegetables (and animals) by mollycoddling, spraying with oil and water, picking off the bugs one-by-one.

On a large scale, don’t believe everything you read, but do shop with deep pockets.


44 posted on 04/27/2013 7:42:10 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Ron/GA

Thanks for a thoughtful comment, but please let me point out that virtually all food is “organic.” Including the worms.

Much of the “organic” movement is money-grabbing crap.

Actually, crap is organic, too.

If you are truly concerned, just grow your own food. On a small scale, it’s entirely possible to produce fine vegetables (and animals) by mollycoddling, spraying with oil and water, picking off the bugs one-by-one.

On a large scale, don’t believe everything you read, but do shop with deep pockets.


45 posted on 04/27/2013 7:42:11 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Ron/GA

Thanks for adding the comments.


58 posted on 04/27/2013 12:39:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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