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Don't blame Windows 8 for PC slowdown; Apple is hit, too
Computer World ^ | 04/17/2013 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 04/17/2013 8:30:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Don't blame Windows 8 for plummeting PC sales, a retail analyst said today.

"It wasn't about Windows 8, it was much more about the price challenges facing OEMs," said Stephen Baker of the NPD Group, citing U.S. retail sales data the firm collected in the first quarter. "People want cheap touch devices, and that's where Windows 8 devices can't compete right now."

While IDC and Gartner last week said U.S. PC shipments dropped 13% and 10% in the first quarter compared to the same three-month span in 2012, Baker said retail sales were essentially flat.

And rather than blame Windows 8, as IDC did last week, for the poor numbers, Baker said the slow sales stemmed from a lack of touch hardware at prices consumers would swallow.

Windows 8, launched last October, is Microsoft's radical attempt to revitalize its OS by stressing touch over mouse and keyboard.

Touch-ready PC notebooks have been selling at relatively high price points: Baker said such systems averaged $750 during the quarter, with 75% of those above $500. Most buyers balked at those prices, passing on Windows 8 not because they dislike the operating system but because they wouldn't pay the going rate for hardware that exploited it.

Only about 10% of the Windows 8-equipped notebooks sold in the three-month period were touch-enabled.

Until prices come down, Baker said Windows 8 machines will continue to struggle. Those prices don't have to be cut-rate, but they do have to be lower than they are now.

"The operative thing is that they don't all have to be in the $400 to $500 range," Baker said of touch PCs. Consumers see the value in touch, and are willing to pay more. Just not as much as current price tags.

"They have to come down $100, $150," said Baker.

(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: apple; microsoft; pc; windows8
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To: girlscout
No 'Start' button so you can easily go to 'My Computer', 'Control Panel', 'Accessories', etc. is one of my biggest gripes.

Place your mouse pointer over the old start button area and right click.

41 posted on 04/17/2013 10:45:00 AM PDT by quimby
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To: quimby

Thank you. I’ll give that a try.


42 posted on 04/17/2013 10:54:49 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: SeekAndFind

Well also the study puts tablets in another category. So tablet devices with win8 makes it look worse for desktop/laptops even though they are selling win8/RT.


43 posted on 04/17/2013 12:47:10 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Mr. K
It is windows 8 and pretty as all heck- a bit of a pain in the a$$ to get used to until I figured out how to click and bring up the desktop.

How do you do that? What do you click?

44 posted on 04/17/2013 1:13:32 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So I wonder what is slowing sales?

I know it can’t be our slowing economy, of course!

</sarcasm>


45 posted on 04/17/2013 1:14:09 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: girlscout

Totally agree. I bought a new laptop almost 2 months ago and haven’t used it much because Win8 has a learning curve attached to it. Bad enough I have to learn it but my wife wants me to teach her as well.

I’ve almost tossed it out the window numerous times.


46 posted on 04/17/2013 1:18:24 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
How do you do that? What do you click?

A couple keyboard shortcuts that might help. From any screen, typing windowskey-D together puts you on the desktop from any "Metro App" screen.

Also, at the initial "Metro" screen, if you drag the desktop tile to the upper left position using your mouse, you can get to the desktop by simply pressing the enter key.

47 posted on 04/17/2013 7:01:47 PM PDT by quimby
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To: hattend

ITs very intuitive! (NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

you move your mouse all the way to a corner and various windows appear (including somethign call a ‘charms’ window)

The lower left corner has a Startup window that appears, and on that startup window i found a descktop button (lower left area)

When you are on the startup window you can hit escaep 9sometimes) and it takes you to the desktop

the START button is gone along with all the old menu option, but you can download free shareware that can provide the same functionality- I am trying one right now and will report back whichever once works best.


48 posted on 04/18/2013 5:45:23 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Moonman62

>>>>>Windows 8 is faster and more efficient than Windows 7. Problem is Microsoft put that terrible interface on top of it. There are simple ways to make the interface like Windows 7, but most people don’t want to bother.<<<<<

+1


49 posted on 04/18/2013 5:15:58 PM PDT by DTA
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To: SeekAndFind

I am in the market right now for a relatively inexpensive laptop.

I will NOT buy anything with Windows 8 on it, though.


50 posted on 04/19/2013 12:10:23 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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